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Sarah
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Another curiosity from me...What supplements are you using and why?

 

Here are mine----

Cod Liver oil-- a few drops twice a day for the omega 3's.

L-Glutamine--to help heal her intestinal wall from SIBO

Bac Pac+--probiotics to bring good bugs to her gut!

 

getting ready to add slippery elm for refulx :0)

August 14, 2009 at 11:36 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Donna
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Probiotics, Wild Salmon oil and Glucosomine, Chondrotin and MSM...I've used Slippely elm and Milk thistle when needed.

 

Donna

August 15, 2009 at 12:22 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Kathy and Ted
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Probiotic, 3V caps, Gluosamine Chondroitin w/MSM, Metagenics B12/Folate, L-Glutamine

Tylan (Teddy has been on an antibiotic since I've had him other then a few weeks off  after each round and then the SIBO comes back) and now Doxy for the Lyme

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Kathy and Ted 9 yr old GSD rescue ~72 lbs now 109 lbs

 

August 15, 2009 at 7:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Karen
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Vit E, spirulina, zinc (due to the raw diet), L-Glutamine (healing the intestinal wall), arabinogalatin (prebiotic), Primal Defense, acidophilus (probiotics trying to build up the good over the bad), coconut oil (cannot tolerate fish oil or fish), vit. C (trying to build up the acid to hopefully help combat SIBO).  I should go into the vitamin business!

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Karen & Hondo - MI
GSD-epi, ibd, sibo & low B12
DX 02/07, Raw Fed, low weight 65 lbs, now 91
August 15, 2009 at 7:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Karen
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Oh, slippery elm when needed for softer poops.

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Karen & Hondo - MI
GSD-epi, ibd, sibo & low B12
DX 02/07, Raw Fed, low weight 65 lbs, now 91
August 15, 2009 at 7:58 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Sarah
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What is MSM?

 

Okay I have a question about primal defense. I bought some and am going to start using it as soon as my other probiotic runs out...I feel stupid asking this...BUT...

 

is that stuff dirt? lol I looked at it the other day because i thought I might try it out and...well...it looks a lot like dirt to me... :)

August 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Sarah
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Where do you guys get the metagencics Intrinsi B12/Folate from AND how often do you use it?

August 15, 2009 at 10:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda
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Sarah:

 

MSM is Methylsulfonylmethane (one of the names it's known by).  MSM is a naturally-occurring nutrient found in our living tissue and is in normal human diets.  It supports healthy connective tissues like tendons, ligaments, and muscle and is an organic form of sulfur.

 

Just use MSM for search words...you'll find a great deal of information on the internet.  I've used MSM, Gluosamine and Chondroitin  for years with my dogs, and I know many people who take them as well.       

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Linda, Akira, Indy and the bratcats

Akira 101 lb GSD, DOB 9/18/03 Dx'd around her first birthday.  First TLI score 1.1, retested 9/07 score had lowered to 0.7.  "Normally" eats 2 cups Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Canine Formula, twice daily.  2 t Pancreatin (or 1 t per cup of food) 8x enzymes given right before each meal in heaping t meat baby food with warm water and mixed to a gruel type texture. 

August 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda
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Karen:

 

I'm curious...is it ester C that you give?

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Linda, Akira, Indy and the bratcats

Akira 101 lb GSD, DOB 9/18/03 Dx'd around her first birthday.  First TLI score 1.1, retested 9/07 score had lowered to 0.7.  "Normally" eats 2 cups Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Canine Formula, twice daily.  2 t Pancreatin (or 1 t per cup of food) 8x enzymes given right before each meal in heaping t meat baby food with warm water and mixed to a gruel type texture. 

August 15, 2009 at 11:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Val
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Seraquin for glucosamine.

fish oil for extra vitamins.

Looking for a totally chicken vitamin tablet (most are made from liver and that makes madam itch)

Other than that I don't give anything but sweet potato and greens in raw.

There may come a time I will look into other supplements but Razzy is bursting with health and digesting well.

So I don't give anything that isn't really needed.

 

Val

August 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Lanie & Milo
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Tylan, weekly B12 shots, couple of drops of Wild Alaskan salmon oil on top of food--that's all.  As long as he is stable, I am not inclined to mess around with what is working (so far . . .)

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Lanie

~~ Owned by Milo:  4 y/o Greater Swiss Mountain Dog / Border Collie Mix.  Shelter Rescue on 12/17/08.  Weight at EPI Dx 3/20/09 - 58#;  cTLI = .04;  Weight on 1/18/10 = 83#  Weight on 4-7-11 = 80 pounds.  Currently trying to get down to 75 pounds.  !!!Happy, Healthy, & Handsome! :)We have come a long way.

I have seen a look in dog's eyes, a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that basically dogs think humans are nuts - John Steinbeck

 


August 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Karen
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Sarah, think of it in terms of homeostatic soil organisms.

 

Linda, just plain C complex (ascorbic acid)

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Karen & Hondo - MI
GSD-epi, ibd, sibo & low B12
DX 02/07, Raw Fed, low weight 65 lbs, now 91
August 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Sarah
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lol so it is dirt, karen! :D

 

Linda- I saw som MSM at wal-mart tonight and thought of you!

August 15, 2009 at 11:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda
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lol...nice to know that whenever you see a bottle of MSM, you'll think of me!

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Linda, Akira, Indy and the bratcats

Akira 101 lb GSD, DOB 9/18/03 Dx'd around her first birthday.  First TLI score 1.1, retested 9/07 score had lowered to 0.7.  "Normally" eats 2 cups Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Canine Formula, twice daily.  2 t Pancreatin (or 1 t per cup of food) 8x enzymes given right before each meal in heaping t meat baby food with warm water and mixed to a gruel type texture. 

August 16, 2009 at 12:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Sarah
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better than say a bottle of gas-x or an antacid! :0)

August 16, 2009 at 12:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Kathy and Ted
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Sarah,

 

I bought the Metagenics from http://www.luckyvitamin.com/. I was giving one a day, cut back to one every other but the vet said to go back to one a day because of the Lyme.

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Kathy and Ted 9 yr old GSD rescue ~72 lbs now 109 lbs

 

August 16, 2009 at 7:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Kathy and Ted
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After posting I realized I don't remember if the vet said to go back to one a day because of the Lyme. Teddy has something funky going on neurologically , vet doesn't think it's DM but maybe that's why she told me to go back to one a day.

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Kathy and Ted 9 yr old GSD rescue ~72 lbs now 109 lbs

 

August 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Sarah
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Thanks for the link Kathy!!

August 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda
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Sarah:

 

That's true...and at least it's not something like a laxative lol.  MSM is good...

 

Linda 

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Linda, Akira, Indy and the bratcats

Akira 101 lb GSD, DOB 9/18/03 Dx'd around her first birthday.  First TLI score 1.1, retested 9/07 score had lowered to 0.7.  "Normally" eats 2 cups Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Canine Formula, twice daily.  2 t Pancreatin (or 1 t per cup of food) 8x enzymes given right before each meal in heaping t meat baby food with warm water and mixed to a gruel type texture. 

August 16, 2009 at 1:34 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Linda
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Karen:

 

I asked because I was always told that if I gave vit-C, to give ester-C, because it is easier on their tummies.  To be honest, I've given both.  It was part of what I gave to Dakota during his last years and he had sort of an iron stomach as far as things upsetting it. 

 

 

 

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Linda, Akira, Indy and the bratcats

Akira 101 lb GSD, DOB 9/18/03 Dx'd around her first birthday.  First TLI score 1.1, retested 9/07 score had lowered to 0.7.  "Normally" eats 2 cups Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Canine Formula, twice daily.  2 t Pancreatin (or 1 t per cup of food) 8x enzymes given right before each meal in heaping t meat baby food with warm water and mixed to a gruel type texture. 

August 16, 2009 at 1:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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