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Michele
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Posts: 93

So, it was two years ago today that my husband and I drove to Maryland to meet and adopt our 2nd EPI boy, Hansel.

 

Some of you may remember the Christmas eve post of “needs home immediately or will be euthanized” He wasn’t even 2 years old, and it broke my heart. The drive from Vermont to Maryland and back in two days nearly killed me, but that’s another story.

 

 

I just wanted to update those of you who remember him. It’s been a long road. It took almost 5 months before he dropped all of his undernourished coat. He was 59 lbs. when we brought him home, and I was told by his previous family that he was hospitalized at one point, weighing in at 44 lbs., and they said the hospital told them they were “just keeping him comfortable”. I don’t think the hospital expected him to survive.

 

 

In addition to his EPI, he also came with some serious behavioral issues, so in November of 2016, we took him to Tuft’s University to the psycho ward, um, I mean behavioral department. His problem is that he's afraid...of everything. He learned to be aggressive to keep the things that make him fearful away. He had a two and a half hour evaluation, and was prescribed Prozac, which has helped him a lot with his anxiety.

 

Can we now bring him into a pet friendly store where there are other dogs? No. But as I told the doctor at Tuft’s, our goal was for him to just be happy to be a dog.

 

 

The middle of December, I took him in for his annual exam, and I am proud to say that he weighed in at 80.2 lbs. His doctor said he is at a perfect weight now. His coat is magnificent, soft and shiny. He even let two of the technicians pet him. Everything seems to be falling into place for him. This past Christmas day, he was upside down on the couch, looking at me with his new chew toy in his mouth, and all I could think of was what a difference in him in 2 years. Life is good now.

 

 

Thank you to all of you who were there for us 2 years ago, and thank you for what you continue to do for people and their “kids” who are just starting this journey. You all are life savers, literally.

 

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Sammy - GSD, DOB 12/10/09, diagnosed 06/12 @72 lbs - TLI - <.04, Cobalamin - 458

Stabilized 09/12

11/23/13 - 93 lbs, Folate 12.2, Cobalamin 527

06/15 - 89 lbs, his Doctor wants him under 90 lbs., cobalamin 1000+, folate 13

Feeding 2 cups TOTW grain free Bison and Venison, with 1 1/2 tsp enzyme per meal, 1 Trinfac B daily,  and 1 Glyco-Flex 600 mg twice a day

Hansel - GSD, DOB 1/20/14, diagnosed 03/15 @ 44 lbs. - TLI < 1

Adopted 1/10/16, 59 lbs, cobalamin 872 - folate 14

12/15/17 - 80.2 lbs.

Feeding 2 cups TOTW grain free Bison and Venison, with 1 1/4 tsp enzyme per meal, 1 Trinfac B daily, 1 Glyco-Flex 600 mg twice a day, 40 mg Prozac once daily



January 10, 2018 at 6:08 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Donna
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Posts: 959

OMG! Michele I'm so happy to hear from you and especially happy to read this report! 

Molly too is suffering from PTSD, I believe.. I tried to call you or email you just a few weeks ago, but I lost your contact info as I was wanted the name of the psych, uhummm... Behavioral vet you saw! Please email me at [email protected] so we can exchange info!

Donna

January 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Doc's Mom
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Posts: 3134
Hi Michele!!! You know you and my boy hold a special place in my heart! So glad you posted an update so others can see there is hope and with patience and love these babies can thrive. Hans sure won the lottery when he picked you! Hugs to you and kisses for that amazing baby - love you both!!
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MADELON and DOC aka "BUBBY WUBBY"

Nashville, Tennessee

DOB: 4/3/2014 - Diagnosed EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
EPI Test Results: 1st test 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; 
2nd test 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; 3rd test 10/2015   TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4

Weight: 95 (highest 1/2015) - 76 (lowest 5/2015) - goal met 100lb (7/23/15) - 101.8LBS 12/3/15 - CHUNKY MONKEY

History prior to DX:  May/June 2014 (2mos old) - DX coccidia and bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos old) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Diagnosed SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May  2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop.

History since DX: has maintained weight between 95-101lbs since July 2015; extreme yeast and rod infection in ears; yeast infection paws (ongoing); bacterial eye infection; bacterial skin infection on legs; poops LIVE fly larvae; diagnosed with mild, focal superficial pyoderma (bacterial infection) - rare lesions on inner thighs; bacterial and yeast overgrowth lip folds; yeast overgrowth feet and left ear; metacarpal/metatarsal draining tracts/fistulae (infection and/or immune mediated disease; probable underlying allergy (food vs. environmental ); staphylococcus pseudintermedius infection in sores on paws; recurring metatarsal fistula - all issues resolved after NutriScan Food Sensitivity Test and switching foods.

NUTRISCAN Food Sensitivity Test (12/2015): reactive to chicken, turkey, white fish, wheat, white potato (mild), venison, soy (mild), pork (mild), duck (mild), corn - switching food based on test resolved all skin issues.

Serum Allergy Test (5/2016): Too many to mention

CURRENTLY :  6 cups Forza10 Legend Skin - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 2 scoops TotalBiotics 1x day; 600mg vitamin E; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Milk Thistle during heartworm/flea/tick meds

I am not a vet.  All of my suggestions are based on my personal experiences, information gleaned from EPI research and information from other EPI owners.  Please always share anything and everything recommended on this forum with your vet

SO THANKfUL FOR OUR EPI4DOGS GUARDIAN ANGELS!!!!!!!!

YOUR PAWS LEFT PRINTS ON MY HEART (in loving memory of Bugsy aka Boo Boo - Boston Terrier 14yrs - not EPI but medically challenging and totally worth it)


January 11, 2018 at 10:08 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Terry Bin
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What a wonderful update!  Congrats on sticking with him and all the hard work.  Just curious if the B12 has been tested lately....I wouldn't be surprised if low B12 was the start of his anxiety/fear and just became learned behavior for him.  Even though giving the pill it might not be a bad idea to test B12 again...or at any time his behavior gets worse.  So glad he's happier being a dog!

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Terry

Mom of three EPI Shiloh Shepherds: 

Pharaoh born Nov. 2007 and dx with epi December 2009.   Pharaoh weighed 62.4 lbs. (15 lb. weight loss) when diagnosed in 12/2009.

Weight 10/31/11 was 76.6; 85lbs on 9/22/12; 85.5 lbs. on 11/13/14.

Received six weeks of B12 shots Jan-Feb 2010 but his B12 on 8/10/2010 was only 232. So started weekly shots at home, which we continue to give. 

His older half sister is Taiko born Sept. 2006  and was dx with epi June 2010.  Since she has severe bilateral hip dysplasia she had always been on the thin side.  Taiko's weight was 70.7 lbs. in June 2010 (time of diagnosis; about a 10 lb. weight loss).

Weight on 10/31/11 was 80.4 and on 9/22/12 was 82.4 lbs.  Weight 11/13/14 was 83 lbs.  B12 was 211 in June 2010 so started six weeks of shots and was only 293 on 8/10/10.  She receives B12 shots weekly at home.  B12 in September 2014 was over 1,000.

Both are fed twice a day and we use Merrick BG brand: 1 1/2  cups kibble in the morning with 1/2 can dog food with 4 crushed tablets and in the evening 1 1/2 cups to 2 cups kibble with 1/2 can dog food  with 4 crushed tablets. 

Moku was born 4/15/14 does not have epi.  His grandfather is Taiko's and Pharaoh's father (through his mother).  On 11/05/14 his weight was 78 lbs, on 12/11/14 he was 85.7 and on his first birthday 15 April 2015: 90.2 lbs.

January 11, 2018 at 5:00 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Michele
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Posts: 93

Donna, sorry the phone cut out last night, I'll be in touch again soon.

Madelon, kisses have been delivered, please give one to Doc and Roxy for me!

Terry, we had his B-12 tested with his initial bloodwork when we brought him home and it was 872. We had him tested again last year and it was over 1000. I have been checking it because I thought the cobalamin might be part of it too. His fear issues we think started well before we adopted him, and for reasons we just assume. The doctor at Tuft's University felt his behavior was like a human with PTSD.  She said that while he may not remember what happened to him, he remembers the fear. But he still gets a Trinfac B tablet every day.


 

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Sammy - GSD, DOB 12/10/09, diagnosed 06/12 @72 lbs - TLI - <.04, Cobalamin - 458

Stabilized 09/12

11/23/13 - 93 lbs, Folate 12.2, Cobalamin 527

06/15 - 89 lbs, his Doctor wants him under 90 lbs., cobalamin 1000+, folate 13

Feeding 2 cups TOTW grain free Bison and Venison, with 1 1/2 tsp enzyme per meal, 1 Trinfac B daily,  and 1 Glyco-Flex 600 mg twice a day

Hansel - GSD, DOB 1/20/14, diagnosed 03/15 @ 44 lbs. - TLI < 1

Adopted 1/10/16, 59 lbs, cobalamin 872 - folate 14

12/15/17 - 80.2 lbs.

Feeding 2 cups TOTW grain free Bison and Venison, with 1 1/4 tsp enzyme per meal, 1 Trinfac B daily, 1 Glyco-Flex 600 mg twice a day, 40 mg Prozac once daily



January 11, 2018 at 6:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Barb
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Posts: 3951

Such a wonderful update.   Hansel's story  just warms the heart......mostly, because we all know what kind of an ending it would have been if you had not made that journey of many miles for him.    He is one lucky boy.  But a lot of hard work has gone into this success story and Michele, it is great to read it.  It's never easy dealing with fearful pups, because we can't always predict how they will react.  But you have done an amazing job.   


Thank you so much for sharing this with us.


Barb 

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January 11, 2018 at 7:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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