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I spoke a long time with a dog food expert and behavorist. I advised her to read all www.epi4dogs.com had to say about diet, so to assist me in getting all of my dogs on the right track. I had heard that Natural Balance had been bought out and negative things had changed. I also noticed with it and my non-Epi dog, Abby that her allergies were no longer controlled with Natural Balance. Bella, my EPI would have SIBO break througs often and her poops would go from great to good and back and forth all the time, with no rhyme or reason. Linda read up on EPI and heard about my concerns. She recommened it switch (very slowly) to Fromm's Grain Free surf and turf, so I did. Amazing. Bella as actually not had a good poop since the first day I started and that was only 25% change to Fromm's. Now that she is at a 75% Fromms change, she has had nice perfect tootsie roll poops regularly. I am really excited, I didn't realize just how much better she could be with a different food. I was really nervous about changing, however I needed to do it. Bella at 7 mos, http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz313/chewchewtrains/Bella1.jpg Bella at 1 year
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-- Bella, English Bulldog, diagnosed at 5 mos and only 8.3lbs. Just switched to 6x Pancreatin mixed with DVP venison and sweet Potatoe with Raw patties, always grain-free. 2x daily, incubated for 20 mins. After 4 weeks, gained 9.2!!! To date,2 yrs and 33lbs.Thanks to everyone here, she has been maintained for 6 months now. This site saved my sanity.
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Hi Bella's Mom, It's amazing isn't it how things improve when you find the balance?, be it food, enzymes, antibiotics etc. Thank you for sharing your experience, it may help someone else looking for that 'right' food for their dog. | |
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-- Owned mind, body and soul by a German Shepherd called Bonnie. Forever in my heart 6th September 2007 - 23rd September 2009 x Forever grateful I found this forum x
Bridie (6 year old Lurcher) and Sadie (16 months old German Shepherd, a rescue dog) guided to us by Bonnie's paw
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-- Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.
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Posted Bella's pic for ya................... When i lived in NC... they had FROMM food there... i tried it and the dogs did like it... but then... we moved................now i am very limited and refuse to have food shipped in, so i just buy what is available here. Yes it IS amazing what a food change can do! | |
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-- Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.
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Oh my goodness, what a fine lass Bella is. What beautiful eyes. | |
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-- Owned mind, body and soul by a German Shepherd called Bonnie. Forever in my heart 6th September 2007 - 23rd September 2009 x Forever grateful I found this forum x
Bridie (6 year old Lurcher) and Sadie (16 months old German Shepherd, a rescue dog) guided to us by Bonnie's paw
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Bella looks amazing!!!!!:D
Yup, food trials are often needed with these EPI dogs... Tara is back on a food that contains rice, "Eagle Pack Holistic lamb and rice" and is doing much better than she did on the grain-free...There is no "one size fits all" with this condition... | |
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-- Donna
Owned by Tara, a 8 YO GSD w/EPI and DM dx'd at about a year old. Fed Taste of the Wild Lamb formular kibble and enhance this diet with cooked meat, veggies and fruit, Enzymes: Pancreatin 8x - 1 tsp per cup of food. Suppliments include 1000 mg Wild Salmon oil, Glucosomine/Chondrotin/MSM and Probiotic acidophilus. Stable since 2005 Also owned by sidekicks' Zoey my rescued GSD and Max, a 10 MO PWC rescue - along with Tess (GSD) and Zeke (PWC) with Angel wings
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Bella is soooo cute! It took us 4 or 5 grain free foods before I found one that actually worked for Jackie. Very happy you found one that works...OK, I have to go look at that pic again! :-)))) cuttie pie she is!! ;-))) | |
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-- Michele "No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich" - having 2 makes you even richer! :-)Jackie (back in pic) Diagnosed at 9 mos (09/09) - TLI 0.3 and low end of B12. Pancreatin 8x dosing 3/4tsp per cup. Natures Domain, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics and Duralactin in the am. Stable and happy 115 lbs - thanks to all the beautiful souls on this forum, we could not have done it without YOU. Dexter - Diagnosed 11/10 approx 3 yrs of age. We failed fostering and now he has his forever home
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Okay everyone...Bella's mom is not going to say anything about it... so i will. Bella wrote a Shutterfly picture book on her journey with EPI.... it is a lovely little book that i purchased and now keep on my coffee table... if anyone is interested in this ...please ask Leslie (Bella's mom) for the LINK. | |
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-- Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.
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What a sweetie!! It took us many,many different types & brands of dry kibble that Gabi liked "mushy". We are now feeding homemade. So happy you found one that works for you both!! | |
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-- Cheryl~~~Loved by Gabi (and Gus): dx'd 3/09 at 2 yrs old, cTLI 1.5. Currently 71.4 lbs. Was 52.5 lbs 09/10. Twice a day: 2cups California Naturals Grain Free Lamb w/ 1 tsp salmon oil, 100 mg Vit E, & 2 Tbls pumpkin; 1-1/2 tsp Pancreatin 8x mixed w/ 2 tsp Party Animal Salmon canned dog food & 1/8 tsp L-Glutamine given as a gruel right before feeding. Probiotic & B12 MIF once a day. Long term for IBD: Methlyprednisolone 4mg once a day . Wausau, WI
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Leslie - I would love to see the link - what a beautiful tribute to both you and your Bella. I started a book with pics on Jackie's therapy visits - some of the book is from my perspective, some from Jackie's...I know down the road I will have it printed - but for now I continue to add every time I have a special visit (which are most of the visits!! :-) | |
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-- Michele "No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich" - having 2 makes you even richer! :-)Jackie (back in pic) Diagnosed at 9 mos (09/09) - TLI 0.3 and low end of B12. Pancreatin 8x dosing 3/4tsp per cup. Natures Domain, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics and Duralactin in the am. Stable and happy 115 lbs - thanks to all the beautiful souls on this forum, we could not have done it without YOU. Dexter - Diagnosed 11/10 approx 3 yrs of age. We failed fostering and now he has his forever home
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Leslie - I would love to see the link - what a beautiful tribute to both you and your Bella. I started a book with pics on Jackie's therapy visits - some of the book is from my perspective, some from Jackie's...I know down the road I will have it printed - but for now I continue to add every time I have a special visit (which are most of the visits!! :-) | |
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-- Michele "No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich" - having 2 makes you even richer! :-)Jackie (back in pic) Diagnosed at 9 mos (09/09) - TLI 0.3 and low end of B12. Pancreatin 8x dosing 3/4tsp per cup. Natures Domain, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics and Duralactin in the am. Stable and happy 115 lbs - thanks to all the beautiful souls on this forum, we could not have done it without YOU. Dexter - Diagnosed 11/10 approx 3 yrs of age. We failed fostering and now he has his forever home
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leslie, I would also love to see the link ot your book. Bella looks fantastic! | |
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-- Kathy and Ted 9 yr old GSD rescue ~72 lbs now 109 lbs
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At initial testing - TLI 1.2 (range 5-35) B12 254 (range 249-733) folate 20.2 (range 6.5-11.5) Natures Domain, Pancreatin 8x dosing is 1tsp per cup, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics with each meal and glucosamine chondroitin in the am. Stable and happy 95 lbs 8/15/11You must login to post.
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