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I was told by my vet today that my GSD Maple has a tumor on her liver. It is quite large and not sure if it can be operated on without further investigation.We are fully prepared to do surgery if it will improve her quality of life and she won't be in pain not that she looks like she is now. She is full of energy playing with our other dog. Does anyone know of anything that will help her? I am aware I can't just give her a suppliment and it will be gone but if anyone else has gone through this and knows a type of food that is better for the liver without hindering her EPI or suppliments that will help. I am starting her on Milk Thistle as long as the vet says its ok. She was doing so well with her EPI. She's only 8 yrs old and we aren't ready to let her go just yet. Thanks! | |
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-- Kate - Owned by Maple a GSD. My best friend, she means to world to me
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Hello Kate I dont know what to say except we are here for you Has your vet said whether the tumour is primary or metastic? I have come across a web site a while ago which is interesting http://www.natural-dog-health-remedies.com/liver-cancer-in-dogs.html there is both diet and other bits of info in there Dogs live for the moment its us that crack up I can only hope that your vet can sort something out for you Please dont give up read as much as you can and ask questions of the vet Prayers from me Derek and Kara Jeanxxxxxx | |
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-- Kara:: adopted at five months old 26th December 2009 always hungry more than any of my other dogs became noticeably distressed August 2010 Two vet visits and............. Diagnosed with EPI at 14 months old September 2010 tli<1.00 folate 8.3 cobalimin 611 taking 2 Oxytet antibiotics 3 times a day and eating Nutrix grain free duck and potato kibble and starting to put weight on currently 33 kilos as of 20th June 2011 we also use Tylan if we dont have the time to use the oxytet as it has to be on an empty tum, enzymes at the moment Pancrex granules 3 teaspoons per meal she is 2 yrs old as of 21st July 2011 "UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WAS INVENTED BY DOGS"
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Oh Kate, I am so sorry to hear this...You'll definatly want a liver friendly diet, but as I've not dealt with this, I've never paid much attention to it...
Is you vet consulting with a surgeon on this? I'm keeping you and Maple in my thoughts and prayers. | |
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-- Donna
Owned by Tara, a 8 YO GSD w/EPI and DM dx'd at about a year old. Fed Taste of the Wild Lamb formular kibble and enhance this diet with cooked meat, veggies and fruit, Enzymes: Pancreatin 8x - 1 tsp per cup of food. Suppliments include 1000 mg Wild Salmon oil, Glucosomine/Chondrotin/MSM and Probiotic acidophilus. Stable since 2005 Also owned by sidekicks' Zoey my rescued GSD and Max, a 10 MO PWC rescue - along with Tess (GSD) and Zeke (PWC) with Angel wings
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Hi Kate - I am so sorry to hear this. I have no experience in this area - sorry I cannot be of help. Please do keep us informed as to what the next steps will be. I will be sending my best to Maple that whatever your decision, all goes well. | |
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-- Michele "No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich" - having 2 makes you even richer! :-)Jackie (back in pic) Diagnosed at 9 mos (09/09) - TLI 0.3 and low end of B12. Pancreatin 8x dosing 3/4tsp per cup. Natures Domain, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics and Duralactin in the am. Stable and happy 115 lbs - thanks to all the beautiful souls on this forum, we could not have done it without YOU. Dexter - Diagnosed 11/10 approx 3 yrs of age. We failed fostering and now he has his forever home
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Just wanted to say that I am sorry to hear this. Keep us informed. | |
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Sending good thoughts to you & Maple. | |
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-- Cheryl~~~Loved by Gabi (and Gus): dx'd 3/09 at 2 yrs old, cTLI 1.5. Currently 71.4 lbs. Was 52.5 lbs 09/10. Twice a day: 2cups California Naturals Grain Free Lamb w/ 1 tsp salmon oil, 100 mg Vit E, & 2 Tbls pumpkin; 1-1/2 tsp Pancreatin 8x mixed w/ 2 tsp Party Animal Salmon canned dog food & 1/8 tsp L-Glutamine given as a gruel right before feeding. Probiotic & B12 MIF once a day. Long term for IBD: Methlyprednisolone 4mg once a day . Wausau, WI
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Dear Kate, I am sorry you are going through this. I do not have experience with this, but there must be others (other Forums?) who have dealt with liver issues. You and Maple and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. I would also get a couple of opinions on the surgery. Please let us know how you are doing with this. Barb | |
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hi Kate I have to admit that I have expereince with liver cancer but I am not sure you would want to hear it so.......................... My heart goes out to you ask ask ask JXX | |
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-- Kara:: adopted at five months old 26th December 2009 always hungry more than any of my other dogs became noticeably distressed August 2010 Two vet visits and............. Diagnosed with EPI at 14 months old September 2010 tli<1.00 folate 8.3 cobalimin 611 taking 2 Oxytet antibiotics 3 times a day and eating Nutrix grain free duck and potato kibble and starting to put weight on currently 33 kilos as of 20th June 2011 we also use Tylan if we dont have the time to use the oxytet as it has to be on an empty tum, enzymes at the moment Pancrex granules 3 teaspoons per meal she is 2 yrs old as of 21st July 2011 "UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WAS INVENTED BY DOGS"
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Administrator Posts: 1945 |
All I can offer is a post of support at this point. Our best to you both... | |
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Craig Lulu (aka Miss Lulupants) is a 4 year old 'Red Shepherd' (Australian Red Heeler x Long-hair GSD) who lives in Adelaide, South Australia. Diagnosed with EPI in April 2010. Currently on one Creon 25k per meal;
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And us as well. We have no helpful experience on this one. Thoughts and prayers to you and Maple. | |
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- Barb -
Mom to Cedar, diagnosed with EPI Nov 1, 2010, TLI 1.2, April 2011 B12 310 (150-700), Folate 31 (7-39); Dec 2011 B12 349 (150-700), Folate 18 (7-39); now on B12 injections weekly; 1 3/4 tsp pancreatin 8X/meal, 1 1/4 c Evo Red Meat Grain free + 1/2 c add ins (pork, salmon, sardines, haddock, egg, pumpkin are the usual), 1/3 c water, incubated x 30 minutes; 2 meals/day; current weight 69.9 lbs. Also has Pannus; treated with tacrolimus ointment 2 x daily each eye and gets 100 ug Vit E daily for immature cataracts. Also Mom to pupkids Bree and Griffin, and catkids Abby, Diamond and Max...and skinkid Ayden
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Hi Kate - just checking in to see how you and Maple are and if anything is new? Hope you are doing well - as well as can be... | |
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-- Michele "No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich" - having 2 makes you even richer! :-)Jackie (back in pic) Diagnosed at 9 mos (09/09) - TLI 0.3 and low end of B12. Pancreatin 8x dosing 3/4tsp per cup. Natures Domain, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics and Duralactin in the am. Stable and happy 115 lbs - thanks to all the beautiful souls on this forum, we could not have done it without YOU. Dexter - Diagnosed 11/10 approx 3 yrs of age. We failed fostering and now he has his forever home
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Oh Kate...I am so so sorry to hear this.......your heart must be breaking. I am not sure if this will help or not...maybe chat with your vet about theses...... but others who have had dogs with cancers (although i do not remember what kinds of cancers) have touted diets by Jean Dodd... and of course, Monica Segal.....so maybe these "liver cancer diets" will help Maple have a little better quality of life....here are some links for you ...But in the meantime... please PLEASE keep us posted and if your ned to just chat, we are here for you.... you and Maple are and always will be family! http://mountaindogfood.com/RawHelp/Raw_Food_Study.pdf http://www.doggiediets.com/aboutus/discussions.php http://www.livestrong.com/article/317127-dodds-liver-cleansing-diet/ | |
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-- Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.
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Thanks everyone. I appreciate the kind words. Maple was rushed into surgery today for a spleenectomy since the mass had over taken it after we gave her an ultrasound. Glad it was that and not the liver. The vet allowed me in the operating room to watch. Maple is doing ok at the vets as of now and the mass has been sent off to find out if its benign or not.Hoping for a full recovery. I did get a lot of useful info for anyone else who may go through this same ordeal. | |
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-- Kate - Owned by Maple a GSD. My best friend, she means to world to me
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Hi Kate, Sending you and Maple lots of positive energy - I hope that it's all good news from now on. It's so nice that you were there with her during the surgery - she must have known you were near. Devika | |
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-- Mahi, the Indian EPI dog, diagnosed at 10 months, now 3 years old. Was 60 lbs, went down to 46 lbs, but now with YOUR help inching towards 59 lbs. Fed 3 times a day - homecooked diet of 1 kg potatoes, 70 gms lentils, 150 gms tapioca, squash, beetroot, carrots mashed together, 2 boiled eggs and 500 ml yoghurt. Since 1st Dec '11 have begun to gradually add TOTW Pacific Stream, pre-softened in hot water with the home-cooked food. 1 Salmon Omega 3 tablet given per day. 1 tablet of Creon 10K given 20 mins before every meal. Very, very active - knock on wood, and seems to have gone from a level 10 of "hungry" to maybe an 8. On 27th July 2011, officially downgraded "hungry" level to 7.
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Kate you are so brave to watch and what a vet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but you were there rooting for her all the way we had the sleen mass as well with my beloved Kai I am relieved that you have been told that its not the liver You just have to stay positive JXXX | |
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-- Kara:: adopted at five months old 26th December 2009 always hungry more than any of my other dogs became noticeably distressed August 2010 Two vet visits and............. Diagnosed with EPI at 14 months old September 2010 tli<1.00 folate 8.3 cobalimin 611 taking 2 Oxytet antibiotics 3 times a day and eating Nutrix grain free duck and potato kibble and starting to put weight on currently 33 kilos as of 20th June 2011 we also use Tylan if we dont have the time to use the oxytet as it has to be on an empty tum, enzymes at the moment Pancrex granules 3 teaspoons per meal she is 2 yrs old as of 21st July 2011 "UNCONDITIONAL LOVE WAS INVENTED BY DOGS"
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Hi Kate, Positive thoughts being sent your way for your beloved Maple.
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-- Lynn, From Melbourne, Australia. Owned by Tess (Irish Setter), Grace (English Setter) & Megg, my beautiful 'English' EPI Angel - Forever in my heart. .
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Member Posts: 449 |
my prayers..... I was always told milk thistle for liver support by my holistic vet.... look into this ..... I had a Parrot that was supposed to be gone in 6 months.... and did great for an addtional 6 years.... astonishing my "traditional" vets ... best to you. | |
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-- In memory of my "Golden Girl" Pebbles my heart continues to be broken... I miss you soooo
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Prayers going out to you and Maple. | |
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-- Kathy and Ted 9 yr old GSD rescue ~72 lbs now 109 lbs
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Get Well Soon Bandy and Chrissy | |
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Hi Kate,
Lots of prayers going out for you and Maple that she both recovers well from the surgery and the pathology looks good. | |
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-- Donna
Owned by Tara, a 8 YO GSD w/EPI and DM dx'd at about a year old. Fed Taste of the Wild Lamb formular kibble and enhance this diet with cooked meat, veggies and fruit, Enzymes: Pancreatin 8x - 1 tsp per cup of food. Suppliments include 1000 mg Wild Salmon oil, Glucosomine/Chondrotin/MSM and Probiotic acidophilus. Stable since 2005 Also owned by sidekicks' Zoey my rescued GSD and Max, a 10 MO PWC rescue - along with Tess (GSD) and Zeke (PWC) with Angel wings
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