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Marilyn Marinelli
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fantastic reading  very informative.... thanks Jean

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Ruby doo bee lol  was diagnosed with EPI in June 2011. Lost 20 lbs  before told about the TLI from the vet.  Was diagnosed with  EPI test result was 2.0. No other tests given.  Gained back 6 lbs.   Finally, *8/11 had B12/Folate test taken ..(Vet delayed it) B12 is 216. Shots will start Monday. Not on shots anymore instead we use Wonderland B12 with intrinsic factor twice a day with each meal. Her B12 was tested and she is in a very safe range high.  Gained weight, she now 53 lbs.  

Was on powder enzyems 1 tsp per 1 cup of food. Did well. I was allergic to powder and she started to not eat and bleed from the mounth and had other problems showing up.  Switched to tablets (didn't work).  Now on Creon Capsule 1capsule 24,000 units per 2 cups of food. Feeding 4 cups per day.  Natural Blance Venison and Sweet Potato plus a little lean boiled chopmeat. 

Also started her and trying probiotics 1/18 of a teaspoon every other day. Seems to be working fine.

February 27, 2013 at 7:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Marilyn Marinelli
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Well here I am again...with an awesome report.  I know many have said give Ruby antibiotics..but because of here circumstance I decided against it. I know many have not agreed with me...HOWEVER, THE GREAT NEWS IS THAT RUBY IS NOW PRODUCING EXCELLENT POOP LOL...BIG DARK BROWN AND DOESN'T GO OUT A LOT AT ALL..   There have been many ups and downs but, she is soooo much more stable now.  I am not as knowledgeable as the top researchers here but, all I can say is that I have been doing alot of praying for Ruby and that coupled with the probiotics (Primal Defense) she has been on and bringing it up a little more has made a great difference.  Of course, she is still on here enyzem pills (Creon) and also I give her B12 with intrinsic factor every day to keep her B12 up.   Thanks everyone for your help hope I can be of help for others as we all stay connected.....    

     

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Ruby doo bee lol  was diagnosed with EPI in June 2011. Lost 20 lbs  before told about the TLI from the vet.  Was diagnosed with  EPI test result was 2.0. No other tests given.  Gained back 6 lbs.   Finally, *8/11 had B12/Folate test taken ..(Vet delayed it) B12 is 216. Shots will start Monday. Not on shots anymore instead we use Wonderland B12 with intrinsic factor twice a day with each meal. Her B12 was tested and she is in a very safe range high.  Gained weight, she now 53 lbs.  

Was on powder enzyems 1 tsp per 1 cup of food. Did well. I was allergic to powder and she started to not eat and bleed from the mounth and had other problems showing up.  Switched to tablets (didn't work).  Now on Creon Capsule 1capsule 24,000 units per 2 cups of food. Feeding 4 cups per day.  Natural Blance Venison and Sweet Potato plus a little lean boiled chopmeat. 

Also started her and trying probiotics 1/18 of a teaspoon every other day. Seems to be working fine.

March 25, 2013 at 9:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

epi4dogs
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Wahoo!!! Great report Marilyn!!!!

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Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.

In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. We also discovered that now, at 8 years old, she not only has EPI, but also Diabetes and Low Thyroid.  Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the kindness of so many here on epi4dogs and  is currently  doing extra-ordinarily well. If anyone could spend a day with Izzy, they would never guess that she has any health problems! 


March 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM Flag Quote & Reply

shirl
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Yippee!  It's nice to hear that Ruby Doo Bee is doing so well!  It sounds like it took a while, but hopefully the SIBO is finally gone.  How much of the Primal Defense is she on now?

 

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Mom to Pixie, 7 year old sheltie,inherited from my mother-in-law 3/11.  Dx of EPI 9/09.  TLI in 10/09 was 0.4 ug/L.  As of 12/2/11, Folate fasting levels was 13.6 ug/L, and Cobalamin fasting was 615.   Current weight 21.7 lbs (4/13), solid member of the Chunky Monkey Club!  Ideal weight around 17, I think, but she's not obese at this weight, so maybe 17 is a little low.  Feeding grain free - Natural Balance canned lamb and Nature's Variety Instinct Limited Ingredient Lamb kibble.  Giving slightly less than 1/2 tsp Pancreatin 8X per 1/2 cup of food.  Tylan currently 1x/day.  Also takes 1/2 tablet pepcid for stomach upset 2x/day.  Primal Defense probiotics 1/8 tsp, 3x/week.  Getting bi-weekly B-12 shots.  Our little pack also includes my husband, our 12 year old sheltie, Lucy, and our 9 year old sheltie, Einstein. 

March 25, 2013 at 9:35 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Marilyn Marinelli
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I give her Primal Defense 1/18 of a teaspoon every other day. Stared to give a little bit more I think this is a help.  Thanks Shirl and Olesia for your responses.

Olesia I keep your dog in prayer that she will be alright.

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Ruby doo bee lol  was diagnosed with EPI in June 2011. Lost 20 lbs  before told about the TLI from the vet.  Was diagnosed with  EPI test result was 2.0. No other tests given.  Gained back 6 lbs.   Finally, *8/11 had B12/Folate test taken ..(Vet delayed it) B12 is 216. Shots will start Monday. Not on shots anymore instead we use Wonderland B12 with intrinsic factor twice a day with each meal. Her B12 was tested and she is in a very safe range high.  Gained weight, she now 53 lbs.  

Was on powder enzyems 1 tsp per 1 cup of food. Did well. I was allergic to powder and she started to not eat and bleed from the mounth and had other problems showing up.  Switched to tablets (didn't work).  Now on Creon Capsule 1capsule 24,000 units per 2 cups of food. Feeding 4 cups per day.  Natural Blance Venison and Sweet Potato plus a little lean boiled chopmeat. 

Also started her and trying probiotics 1/18 of a teaspoon every other day. Seems to be working fine.

March 26, 2013 at 12:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

maddie ann
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Great report Marilyn .......no antibotics just probotics .

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 ANN (UK)

 

Maddie DOB 01-10-2007 she is now  5 DX 04/11 .B12 140 now 644 TLI <1.00 Folate 14.2.

B12 RETESTED 0N 21-05-2013 Value  902 after 15 months of daily piils Yipheeee

Weight was 22.3kg now 33.2kg (04-05-12) she is a small GSDbut she gained .(24lbs)

Feed a mixture of foods she does better on fibre 3% and below she has  b12 tablets daily (imported from the USAhttp://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=6881) now changing to the uk version from http://www.chemeyes.co.uk/

Also omega3 and Vitamin E daily. Use Panzym 1/4 a tsp per 200 grams of food .Got SIBO under control after antibiotics ( stormormgyl) used synbotic by protexin. a pre-probotic

March 26, 2013 at 5:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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