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Member Posts: 260 | Maezi is looking not well this morning . I have now noticed some swelling/ puffiness on her nose and jaw. Not sure what - if she may have gotten into something. She been off ruling since sat morn . She is alert. It started about 1/2 hour ago her nose. | |
--Maezi is a female Australian cattle dog (blue Heeler) from BC Canada born may 11-2010The story of her journey and struggles with EPI are featured on the EPI stories section above
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Member Posts: 578 |
Could she have been bitten? | |
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-- Maddie orginal Diagnosed 12/04/11 her TLi was 1 Folate14.2 DOB 01/10/2007 B12 140/165/235 now 644 was on jabs until 28/01/2012 now on B12 intrinsic factor tablets daily with food. Weight was 22.3 Currently 27.1 (13-09-2011)28.8(27-10-11)31.7(02-12-11)32.5(27-01-2012) up 10kgs and Down to 31.7 (not feeding the correct amount 28-02-2012) need to get back to 32.5 this was her weight before DX.Hooray.............33.2 (04-05-12) Feeding grain free- Burns/Fish4dogs/Simpsons/Changed foods more digestible now on 400 grams per feed Panzxym 1.5 ml teaspoon per feed(used to use 2 lypex per feed) She had SIBO but this has not flared up since last august she was on Oxytet this didnt work so put on:stomorgyl- Treated with Synbotic capsules as well (pre-probotics )
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Member Posts: 260 | Yes I called vet and we think she must have been bitten by most likely a spider - the swelling is really bad and I will be taking her in now . | |
--Maezi is a female Australian cattle dog (blue Heeler) from BC Canada born may 11-2010The story of her journey and struggles with EPI are featured on the EPI stories section above
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Member Posts: 578 |
Good luck keep us posted when you get back . | |
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-- Maddie orginal Diagnosed 12/04/11 her TLi was 1 Folate14.2 DOB 01/10/2007 B12 140/165/235 now 644 was on jabs until 28/01/2012 now on B12 intrinsic factor tablets daily with food. Weight was 22.3 Currently 27.1 (13-09-2011)28.8(27-10-11)31.7(02-12-11)32.5(27-01-2012) up 10kgs and Down to 31.7 (not feeding the correct amount 28-02-2012) need to get back to 32.5 this was her weight before DX.Hooray.............33.2 (04-05-12) Feeding grain free- Burns/Fish4dogs/Simpsons/Changed foods more digestible now on 400 grams per feed Panzxym 1.5 ml teaspoon per feed(used to use 2 lypex per feed) She had SIBO but this has not flared up since last august she was on Oxytet this didnt work so put on:stomorgyl- Treated with Synbotic capsules as well (pre-probotics )
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Member Posts: 3926 |
ohhh...hope all turns out ok Wanda - good thing you are bringing her in. Do let us know how you make out. My best coming her way... | |
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-- Michele "No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich" - having 2 makes you even richer! :-)Jackie (back in pic) Diagnosed at 9 mos (09/09) - TLI 0.3 and low end of B12. Pancreatin 8x dosing 3/4tsp per cup. Natures Domain, Trinfac-B Intrinsic Factor daily, probiotics and Duralactin in the am. Stable and happy 115 lbs - thanks to all the beautiful souls on this forum, we could not have done it without YOU. Dexter - Diagnosed 11/10 approx 3 yrs of age. We failed fostering and now he has his forever home
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Member Posts: 330 |
Let us know what the vet says. I was going to say maybe she has an infected tooth before I read that your vet thought maybe a spider. We don't deal with too many spiders here (except the tiny ones in my basement). Glad you are getting it checked out, you can never be too careful. Lisa | |
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Member Posts: 2548 |
Oh no.... paws crossed for the magnificent Maezi... | |
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-- ~Becky~
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Site Owner Posts: 7645 |
HI Wanda... as i was reading your post... spider bite popped into my head because that is what happened to my neighbor's dog.....sounded kind of like what you were describing...they had to put the dog on drugs (don't remember what kind) but i do remember that the swelling did not go down right away...it took quite a few days before the dog was feeling well again. Hopefully Maezi will get better real soon. HOpe you let us know what the vet says! | |
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-- Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.
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Member Posts: 260 |
:)maezi is home doing better OMG what a scare ! she was fine when she woke up she had her head under our bed as she likes to do -as when she could fit sheliked to sleep under there to feel safe I think. I noticed her come out and paw at her nose a bit but never thought much of it . 1/2 hour or so she was at my feet in lving room and I noticed her nose looked puffy. Checked her out and watched her then notice more swelling and i happened to b on my ipod checking forum so I posted for help .(meant off tylon since sat-silly ipod) Same time I called our vet office and told them what was going on - by then her eyes were swelling shut and she was breathing really hard and looked in pain. Her whole nose and jaw were puffed up so vet thought spider bite or maybe even swallow one. I agreeed as I had been bitten by something day before that left nasty mark on my hip. Vet recommended benadryl ASAP if I had any (lucky I did) - to give her 2-4 mg per Kg - they were 25 mg pills so she said give her 1 and watch as i bring her in as its an hour trip to vet--she said I should hopefully see improvement shortly if its gonna work OMG SHe had started trembling and she was laying on floor drooling alot by now and was very reluctant to get up to go to car. OMG THe benadry brought the sweeling down within about 20 minutes and her breathing improved. She had bit of fever but was ok to get up out of car and rub her nose in the snow We are at home now sitting on floor as she lays beside me - she has a lump on lower lip where she was bitten size of grape OMG have to monitor it as it could be come inflammed/infected. We have to continue the benadryl every 4-6 hours and monitor her overnight and watch her closely for any signs of - tremors - seizures - breathing difficulty - swelling/hives - vomit/diahrea or if she seems reluctant to get up or walk.OMG We are to give her lots of fresh water and not worry too much about eating - rest - no walks or rough play etc.-- only go out to go potty (not to worry OMG as an EPI mom I not very good at that yet) We are to re-evaluate her in morning and consider bringing her in for re-check as she may need antis or steroids if she is worse OMG Concerned about re-bitten as her reaction could be more harmful second time - anaphylactic shock and need epinephrine shot possibly OMG poor girl - hope she gets good night rest as I know I wont OMG she scares me so !
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--Maezi is a female Australian cattle dog (blue Heeler) from BC Canada born may 11-2010The story of her journey and struggles with EPI are featured on the EPI stories section above
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Member Posts: 2473 |
What a scare. I hope Maezi is much better today. | |
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-- Kathy and Ted 9 yr old GSD rescue ~72 lbs now 109 lbs
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Site Owner Posts: 7645 |
Oh Wanda...... we are just gonna have to call ya the OMG Mom!!! Glad that the Benedryl helped.... but it can take a while to get completely out of her system (the spider-bite toxin) ......(as i mentioned earlier, my neighbor's dog struggled for about 5 days with this! But at least you know what it is and know what to be on the look out for.... hopefully Maezi will continue to improve and this will never happen again! | |
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-- Olesia, owned by Izzy-45lb SWD, Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Stable almost 7 yrs! Once stable, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes with each meal, but after almost 4 years of stabilization... had to increase the amount of enzymes to 3/4 teaspoon with each meal. Feed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane. I give 1 tsp of coconut oil one day and 1 tsp salmon oil next day, and also give canned sardines packed without salt or canned herring for extra omega oils.
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Member Posts: 260 |
near blind & very hard
of hearing but otherwise in good health. Maezi is his eyes & ears when we out. When he wAs laid up she laid with him constantly - I took pic & they ran story
in paper about tic & how maezi 'took care if him'
anyways .... Maezi is good this morning - ate breaky-- she's panting alot --
has been out to potty & push her nose around in the snow 
will keep eye on poos - hope stays well w recent stop of tylon.
Thanx for listening
omg Wanda & maezi ( lol)
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--Maezi is a female Australian cattle dog (blue Heeler) from BC Canada born may 11-2010The story of her journey and struggles with EPI are featured on the EPI stories section above
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Member Posts: 260 | omg olesia u made me laugh / thanx - I am usually pretty easy going calm - laugh at life person normally. But it's been hard not to worry so much about maezi. We have been very fortunate that our other pets have been very healthy. With exception of baloo last spring - he started stumbling one day and by end of day he couldn't walk ( paralyzed back legs omg) - we took him to vet right away thinking he had stroke & we were going to have to make ' the big decision' of letting hi go ( was so sad omg) but vet found tic e bedded behind ear in his long hair - once removed he recovered & was able to walk after 3 days :). Now he going strong at 13&1/2.... -----weird - first part of my post disapeared so I repost - this is first half of story | |
--Maezi is a female Australian cattle dog (blue Heeler) from BC Canada born may 11-2010The story of her journey and struggles with EPI are featured on the EPI stories section above
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Member Posts: 578 |
I am so glad things have improved and also so glad i live in the Uk no nasty biting spiders !!!!! Ann | |
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-- Maddie orginal Diagnosed 12/04/11 her TLi was 1 Folate14.2 DOB 01/10/2007 B12 140/165/235 now 644 was on jabs until 28/01/2012 now on B12 intrinsic factor tablets daily with food. Weight was 22.3 Currently 27.1 (13-09-2011)28.8(27-10-11)31.7(02-12-11)32.5(27-01-2012) up 10kgs and Down to 31.7 (not feeding the correct amount 28-02-2012) need to get back to 32.5 this was her weight before DX.Hooray.............33.2 (04-05-12) Feeding grain free- Burns/Fish4dogs/Simpsons/Changed foods more digestible now on 400 grams per feed Panzxym 1.5 ml teaspoon per feed(used to use 2 lypex per feed) She had SIBO but this has not flared up since last august she was on Oxytet this didnt work so put on:stomorgyl- Treated with Synbotic capsules as well (pre-probotics )
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Member Posts: 1560 |
Urgh that gave me shivers ... I'm glad I live in UK too. Poor Maezi and poor you ... what a fright. I'm so glad things are a bit better.... big hugs to our bitten girl. Val | |
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Member Posts: 728 |
Awe what a fright you must have got. And all that way to the vet! Yup the weather in the Scotland sucks but the spiders are thankfully harmless! Glad your girl is doing well and Baloo too! Gillian x | |
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-- Wallace rescue GSD. Currently feeding James Wellbeloved Turkey and Vegetable Cereal Free and some Butcher's Tripe. Four teaspoons Pancrex Granules and 2 Lypex capsules per meal. (Will go back to raw pig pancreas soon.) Three meals a day 3 times per week, 2 meals a day the other 4 days otherwise he stops eating. Tylan 1/8 teaspoon twice a day (this is half the recommended dose for his weight but the recommended dose made his poos soft!) Synbiotic D-C (probiotic and prebiotic) capsule once a day. Monthly B12 injection.
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Member Posts: 649 |
Glad things are going well. Our last GSD EPI girl Sadie, was bitten by a Wolf spider.. we almost lost her , I can feel for your fear.... | |
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-- Dar and Kodi Kodi (GSD female , born August 19, 2010 , was diagnosed July 15, 2011 at 11 months .Lowest weight, 47 lbs, weight as of 2/ 20/ 2012 59.6 lbs. Our goal for her at this time is 60lbs. ... We made it !!! 60.4 lbs on March 31, 2012 . TLI .07 , Folate 9.4 , Cobalmin 536 .Kodi eats TOTW Sierra Mountain (Lamb and sweet potato, grain free), 2 cups,2 times a day with 1 teaspoon of pancreatin 8x per cup., recently added small lunch(1 cup plus 1 teas. enzymes) enzymes ( From Diane...awesome lady!!!) , with warm water and letting it sit for 30 minutes . She is our furry kid whom just loves playing with the grandkids !!!!
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Administrator Posts: 1945 |
Golly, have just popped back to the forum to find all manner of drama, thank goodness Maezi is on the up! Benedryl eh? I'll have to remember that, we have lots of toxic crawlers here, most of them pretty lethal as the stellar Stella almost found out recently when a snake bit her. These pups are resiliant though. Sounds like a spider but reactions to bee stings can sometimes have similar effects. Anyway, keep up posted, we need to see Maezi out climbing mountains (safely) in the wilderness again soon | |
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Craig Lulu (aka Miss Lulupants) is a 4 year old 'Red Shepherd' (Australian Red Heeler x Long-hair GSD) who lives in Adelaide, South Australia. Diagnosed with EPI in April 2010. Currently on one Creon 25k per meal;
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Member Posts: 2548 |
Poor Maezi with her spider bite... she has been keeping you sweating it! I hope she is soon feeling better and back on the go! | |
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-- ~Becky~
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Member Posts: 1843 |
I am so glad to hear that Maezi is recovering. That was scary ...... in real time. We had a similar experience with our Bridge GSD, Kip. We never knew what bit him, but within minutes he went from looking like a German Shepherd to looking like a kaola bear. It was very scary. (OMG) So glad Maezi is on the mend ....Good for you for catching it in time. I love how you describe where Maezi sleeps. Kolby's favorite place is under the bed and he can only get his head under now too. Barb | |
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