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Post by Kimbergsd » 12 Jan 2019, 10:06

Hello everyone! I am currently feeding Kimber 2 cups of Fromm mixed with 1 teaspoon of enzyme diane 8x and she is doing great. I am thinking about switching to a commercial raw diet. My question is does anyone know how much enzymes I would be adding to raw? Do I mix it the same? Let it thaw out, then incubate the enzymes the same as I would with dry kibble?

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Post by jilbert57 » 12 Jan 2019, 18:34

I am not sure about enzymes and raw feeding. Someone who feeds raw or knows about it should be on soon. Glad you have Kimber stable on the Fromms.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

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Re: Raw

Post by Olesia711 » 13 Jan 2019, 13:40


1. When feeding raw, first make sure the food is room temperature, and if possible have the raw all chopped or ground vs. big hunks of meat, etc.
2. Then add the enzymes, mix well (add a little water/moisture if you think it might be needed to allow the enzymes a better distribution in-between the food particles).
3. Let the raw food with the enzymes incubate per usual (20/+ minutes)
4. With raw you give less enzymes.... with 6x powdered enzymes you start with anywhere between 1/2 tsp of 6x powdered enzymes to 3/4 tsp of 6x powdered enzyme per 1 cup of raw food. BUT.......Since you are using 8x powdered enzymes my suggestion would be to start with an enzyme dose of anywhere between 1/4 tsp to 1/2 tsp per 1 cup of raw food.

It is up to you whether you want to start on the low end or the high end of the enzyme dose... personally i would start with the higher dose, see how it goes, and if you think the poos are looking great.... then i would try reducing the enzymes to the lower dose.

Hope this helps!
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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