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We have just switched to Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream, from SDE Buf & SP (it's cheaper). I have also started slowly adding slippery elm & proviable, while weaning off tylan, and the poo is pretty good. Better, anyway. ---Pam

Let us know how the little tweak up in enzymes goes after a few days.

Jill

finding the right diet can make you fell like you are losing your mind.... but in general what i noticed over the years on the forum (although this is not 100% fool proof) is

1. that too much fiber (fiber content) can cause issues,
2. but sometimes just a tin bit of fiber is helpful (prebiotics) but then i noticed...
3. sometimes its what we don't think of...is the damn carbs in the food... which has fiber components too...
4. so in short what i noticed is that many of our EPI dogs simply do better with higher protein based foods..... but then (there AWAYS is an exception) some dogs just cannot handle excessive amounts of protein...

it really is trial an error / process of elimination..... but maybe this "generalization" might be a helpful guideline to use...

Thank you Pam and everyone. You know , I thought about the fact that the protein is so high in the food he is currently on and was toying with trying the totw pacific stream as well. First I'm gonna try the increase on the enzyme and see then go from there. Just adjustments to that always cause kohle to pee alot more than normal, but whatever I need to do....
Olesia, and Jill, and Madeline...and Gunny's mom and Pam ( Pam, thanks to you for the past suggestion with Tylan powder...saved me some headache!! Much appreciated )..everyone Thank you!

when it comes to finding the right diet for an EPI dog.... the possibilities are endless...............*sigh*...............

Good luck and please keep us posted!

Hi Jen, FaceBook is a wonderful place to read how others are treating their EPI dogs, and we certainly encourage folks to visit and read as many EPI experiences as possible not only on Epi4Dogs but on all the other FB pages too. But please understand that Epi4Dogs cannot and will not be as prolific as EPI FB pages because the Epi4Dogs forum platform is set up differently. FB allows for multitudes of short quick answers. The forum allows for more in-depth explanations. We not only share personal experiences, but much of our recommendations are directly from proven EPI veterinarian research that Epi4Dogs has collaborated on. In addition to collaborating on multiple EPI research projects, Epi4Dogs has also given seminars to teach vets about EPI, and information on Epi4Dogs has been used as teaching modules for vets schools and vet conferences. Many times we give “suggestions” based on current research that has yet to been published yet. Epi4Dogs has been published multiple times in veterinarian publications and our registry is the only existing EPI recorded registry worldwide tapped by vets, researchers and vet students themselves to learn the latest science with EPI. This is something that FB is simply not set up to do. We greatly appreciate all the other FB Pages on EPI as the more people talk about EPI the more awareness EPI is given, the more dogs are helped...so we hope to work together with all the other EPI FaceBook pages. I hope this explains why Epi4Dogs Forum may not have as much activity as a FB page, but that it’s focus is rather more encompassing. We work directly with vets and researchers, we are the only EPI platform that spearheads EPI research, we facilitate EPI education, and we are also a nonprofit organization that helps individuals in need.

Oh goodness I hope I didn’t sound like I was promoting or comparing the FB page! I know the difference. Just, having recently searched this forum for food suggestions myself, I know most here are feeding Sport Dog.

i suspect the reason why many of us feed Sport Food is probably because in addition to it being low in fiber content (no grain) it is probably one of the few foods that does not have peas in it.... and OMG.... seems like all the "grain free" foods today are over stuffed with peas.

We noticed years ago that formulas changed and some of our favorite dog foods now had peas in it instead of sweet potato and our dogs started farting, having loose stools, grumbling tummies, etc.... and in short SID started becoming an issue again when previously many of us thought we had it under good control.

WELL... a few years after our members started noticing this.... there was some EPI research done in Germany and out of all the carbs they tested (on EPI mini-pigs) peas were the worst thing to give an EPI patient... it actually encourages more bad SID ......exactly what we noticed was happening to our dogs.

SO... the hunt was on for commercial food without peas. Talk about trying to find a needle in the haystack. SPort is one company that does not use any peas in some of their products. THere now are other companies that also have commercial dog food without any peas in it and are still low fiber content food... but Sport is one that many of us are familiar with.

I have used Earthborn dog food worked well.

Good suggestion.... Years ago we used Earthborn "Primative" and that worked well for us too..... that was before my Izzy developed Diabetes too and then i had to feed the same stuff day in and day out.... i felt so bad for Izzy then cause prior to Diabetes... we did all kinds of foods... lots of variety and she did great .. most of the time....of course there were a few bombs... but i learned what did and didn't agree with her over the years.............