New and going to the vet on Wed

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Jane&Clyde
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Re: New and going to the vet on Wed

Post by Jane&Clyde » 07 Jun 2021, 15:22

Thanks for all of the thoughts and ideas, everyone. The air horn is a good idea. I had heard of this in the past, but had completely forgotten about it. And Pam, I can certainly understand how you reacted in the heat of the moment. Obviously, in the long term, positive reinforcement is the way to go. This will be an extremely long process, especially with Dexter. He's definitely a dog who is an independent thinker, and getting him to do things that he doesn't see a reason to do takes a long time. Clyde is more of a "people pleaser". Medication or herbal supplements night be another option, but I kind of hate to do that when the problem doesn't happen every day and Dexter is usually a very calm dog when not overstimulated.

I think the aggressor in the two is Dexter, but I'm not sure. Certainly Clyde goes at Dexter once the fight has begun. But, Dexter is definitely the one who loses control and doesn't respond to my shouting. Clyde at least hesitates and I think might even stop if Dexter wasn't still coming at him. Dexter has always been extremely reactive to other dogs. By this I mean extremely overexuberant...lunging, barking, etc. This is the first time I have seen actual aggression. At this point, dog parks or anywhere there are lots of people or dogs simply isn't an option. The vet clinic I was using until recently was a large practice connected to the shelter that I got him from. The waiting room was filled with people and dogs. More than once we were politely escorted to a separate small room to wait because Dexter caused such a ruckus. I know that I should be trying to introduce new people and dogs to Dexter, but it's difficult to do when it's just me here.

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Re: New and going to the vet on Wed

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 07 Jun 2021, 16:31

Thanks, Jane. I, too, am going to invest in a couple of air horns & place them strategically, inside & out. Once again, I do not beat my dog, and I haven't had to do anything but yell Tucker's name, to stop him from attacking, in at least a couple of years. I do think my voice works because of what followed, those first couple of attacks. . The overstimulation is the case in our house, too, and it happens maybe 2-3 times a year. Most things scare the patoouie out of Tucker, and I guess it's all related.

Jane, if you are on facebook, there is a group called Fearful and Reactive Dog Support Community by Dogkind. The moderators are dog trainers, and they are very generous with their support. They even offer free online workshops. I joined because of Tuck's thunder & walking anxiety, and I really appreciated the advice I got. ---Pam
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.

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Re: New and going to the vet on Wed

Post by Olesia711 » 07 Jun 2021, 17:24

That FB group that deal with fearful and reactive dogs sounds like a great suggestion!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DogkindSupport
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: New and going to the vet on Wed

Post by Olesia711 » 07 Jun 2021, 17:26

Jane,

I hope you can find a technique that can truly help you "calm" things between Clyde and Dexter... it is so hard when there are conflicts between two dogs.....

Please keep us posted if you can.
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

Jane&Clyde
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Re: New and going to the vet on Wed

Post by Jane&Clyde » 03 Sep 2021, 13:14

We survived Hurricane Ida!

There are two trees on my roof and several trees through my fence. I have no electricity and probably won't have for a couple more weeks. We regained water pressure but are under a boil water advisory, and my stove is electric (of course!). My son waited in line for 4 hours to buy gas, and his apartment has 3 feet of water in it. And then there is the $5200 insurance deductible.

However, compared to many, we are lucky. All family members, including pets, are safe and sound. The house can be lived in, even without electricity and drinking water. Our cars weren't damaged. So it certainly could have been much worse.

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