Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

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Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by dana7123 » 29 Aug 2018, 10:01

How do you get your dog to take it? I put it in her food, mixed with something else, and she won't eat her food! It does smell!
My Belle is a rescue. She was 3 mo when I adopted her and at 7 mo we discovered the EPI. Her TLI results were "0.4". We went to 3 Vets who tested her for worms, diarrhea etc., and then the 4th vet knew exactly what was wrong once I described the yellow poo and everything else. What a relief! He put her on Science Diet ID and enzymes right away! I was so glad to find enzymediane because that first bottle of enzymes from the vet cost a fortune!! Belle gets 2 1/2 cups of food with 2 1/2 tsp of enzymes twice a day. She has done well (at 103 lbs) but she just started a bout of SIBO. She just started Tylan today. Fingers crossed!

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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by jilbert57 » 29 Aug 2018, 10:07

Hi Dana, a lot of folks put the dose of Tylan in a gel cap. You can order them from Amazon or go to the pharmacy or I think even vitamin shops carry them.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by dana7123 » 29 Aug 2018, 17:16

Hi. I have the gel capsules, but do you put something around it? Or just put it deep into their mouth?
My Belle is a rescue. She was 3 mo when I adopted her and at 7 mo we discovered the EPI. Her TLI results were "0.4". We went to 3 Vets who tested her for worms, diarrhea etc., and then the 4th vet knew exactly what was wrong once I described the yellow poo and everything else. What a relief! He put her on Science Diet ID and enzymes right away! I was so glad to find enzymediane because that first bottle of enzymes from the vet cost a fortune!! Belle gets 2 1/2 cups of food with 2 1/2 tsp of enzymes twice a day. She has done well (at 103 lbs) but she just started a bout of SIBO. She just started Tylan today. Fingers crossed!

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Post by jilbert57 » 29 Aug 2018, 19:46

I popped it in cream cheese or Jif peanut butter after his enzymed meal.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by Olesia711 » 29 Aug 2018, 21:20

Hi Dana,

I pour the proper amount of Tylan into an empty gel cap and then i tuck the gel cap in a blob of cream cheese.

When i first tried giving Tylan to my gal Izzy, i mixed it in her food...OMG... that was a disaster.... she backed away from her dish and refused to eat !!! and i swear she gave me a dirty look...

SO for us., the capsule tucked in cream cheese works like a charm :)
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by dana7123 » 30 Aug 2018, 19:37

Yay I got her to take it. We tried plain, natural with nothing in it yogurt and she liked that! So far poo is getting better. Fingers still crossed because it's not quite there yet. Another question.......where do you get Tylan? Do you have to get it from the vet because they charge so much!!

Oh my gosh you are so right! When I put it in her food she would have nothing to do with her food. 2 days later and she is still suspicious of her food and will check it for about 5 min before she will even try it! :lol: My mistake!!

Dana
My Belle is a rescue. She was 3 mo when I adopted her and at 7 mo we discovered the EPI. Her TLI results were "0.4". We went to 3 Vets who tested her for worms, diarrhea etc., and then the 4th vet knew exactly what was wrong once I described the yellow poo and everything else. What a relief! He put her on Science Diet ID and enzymes right away! I was so glad to find enzymediane because that first bottle of enzymes from the vet cost a fortune!! Belle gets 2 1/2 cups of food with 2 1/2 tsp of enzymes twice a day. She has done well (at 103 lbs) but she just started a bout of SIBO. She just started Tylan today. Fingers crossed!

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Post by jilbert57 » 30 Aug 2018, 19:53

Hi Dana. There are some online pharmacies for pets that would require your vet write a prescription and fax it to them. Just google tylan powder for dogs and you get alot of choices. I am glad you finally got your pup to take it
www.drsfostersmith.com
www.vetrxdirect.com
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by Jean » 31 Aug 2018, 03:23

whatever you do DO NOT rub your eyes if you have it on your hands , it hurts
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


Jeanx

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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by dana7123 » 31 Aug 2018, 17:13

Thank you Jill for the links. I look into it right away.

Jean I didn't know that! So glad you told me not to rub my eyes!!!! Thanks!!!!

So we can't use the yogurt. Poo was a tiny one step back from the day before so the vet said "no yogurt". For now just her food and not treats or anything else until we get her stable. So I'm back to trying to figure out how to get her to take the Tylan. I know I can't put it in her food because she won't eat her food if I do, so I'm thinking I might have to put it in the capsule and just get it to the back of her throat??????? Trying to stay positive for her!
My Belle is a rescue. She was 3 mo when I adopted her and at 7 mo we discovered the EPI. Her TLI results were "0.4". We went to 3 Vets who tested her for worms, diarrhea etc., and then the 4th vet knew exactly what was wrong once I described the yellow poo and everything else. What a relief! He put her on Science Diet ID and enzymes right away! I was so glad to find enzymediane because that first bottle of enzymes from the vet cost a fortune!! Belle gets 2 1/2 cups of food with 2 1/2 tsp of enzymes twice a day. She has done well (at 103 lbs) but she just started a bout of SIBO. She just started Tylan today. Fingers crossed!

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Re: Help with Tylan, what to mix it with?

Post by Olesia711 » 01 Sep 2018, 15:49

ahh shucks, that's too bad.... she must have an issue with "dairy" :(

SO.... when you put the nasty Tylan powder it in a capsule... after filling and BEFORE you put the capsule in your dogs' mouth.... (and i am not exaggerating here...) wash your hands/fingers with soap and water..... i learned (the hard way) that Tylan powder is air-borne ..... and then, with very clean hands/fingers ... THEN... put the capsule in her mouth.

The only other thing i can think of is after you fill the capsule and wash your hands is maybe jsut gently rub the capsule in something yummy that she can tolerate..... can she handle mashed tuna fish?... maybe jsut rub/roll the capsule in a little dab of tuna so that it can also help mask the smell/taste??

Or..... BBQ sauce??? (this is another thing that helped some dogs tolerate something they didn't like..........)
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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