B12 Testing
B12 Testing
We decided to try taking Nikki off the weekly B12 injections and switch her to the Trinfac-B capsules.
First we reduced her B12 injections to every two weeks and adding the Trinfac-B capsules, her B12 levels came back very high but they may not be correct. Her vet never mentioned stopping the B12 injections/capsules prior to testing.
She is no longer on the injections and is taking the Trinfac-B daily and we need to test her again just to be sure her B12 levels are staying in the high normal range. How long before we test her again do I need to stop the Trinfac-B so we are getting a correct reading? I have seen this information on here before but can't find it...sorry!
First we reduced her B12 injections to every two weeks and adding the Trinfac-B capsules, her B12 levels came back very high but they may not be correct. Her vet never mentioned stopping the B12 injections/capsules prior to testing.
She is no longer on the injections and is taking the Trinfac-B daily and we need to test her again just to be sure her B12 levels are staying in the high normal range. How long before we test her again do I need to stop the Trinfac-B so we are getting a correct reading? I have seen this information on here before but can't find it...sorry!
R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023
Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned
Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
Tylan for life
"If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever."
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Re: B12 Testing
Nikki, I just went to the B12 page, and I don't see anything about taking her off before the test, BUT, I know you're supposed to because I've been through it twice.
It is suggested to stop giving B12 seven days before the blood draw. Last time, I stopped ten days to be extra safe. This gives a true reading of her levels. ---Pam & Tucker
It is suggested to stop giving B12 seven days before the blood draw. Last time, I stopped ten days to be extra safe. This gives a true reading of her levels. ---Pam & Tucker
Tucker was a shepherd mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Diane's Enzymes 4 t/day, B12 1 capsule/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/day. Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 4 c/day. 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma Nov. 2023. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
Re: B12 Testing
Thanks Pam!
R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023
Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned
Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
Tylan for life
"If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever."
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Re: B12 Testing
Yes you are supposed to stop giving the B12 before testing to see how long your dog can hold the B12 without supplementing - I personally did not stop supplementing because I wanted to see what my dog's levels were with supplementing.
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.
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Re: B12 Testing
Madelon, that makes sense to me. What did you find?---Pam
Tucker was a shepherd mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Diane's Enzymes 4 t/day, B12 1 capsule/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/day. Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 4 c/day. 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma Nov. 2023. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
Re: B12 Testing
I found the post from Olesia and it does say to stop B12 before testing or we will get a false reading, I'll just go with her instructions. Nikki is showing signs again that her B12 may be too low which happened before when I tried to switch her to the pills.
"Also... the B12 issue.... i do think that 2 capsules could have been too much for Tucker's systems and that might be why he had looser stools on 2. HOWEVER..... knowing that his B12 was in the 600s when you were giving him 2 kind of indicates to me that it is hard for his body to maintain his B12 ..... and yes you did the right thing by withholding B12 capsules for 1 week prior to having the blood tested..... although the body gets rid of any excess B12 if it doesn't need it... it does store it for a short time and this is why it is important to stop oral B12 for 1 week prior to testing and stop injectible 1 month prior to testing. ... or else you will get a false reading of what the actual B12 level is in the dogs body. .."
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"Also... the B12 issue.... i do think that 2 capsules could have been too much for Tucker's systems and that might be why he had looser stools on 2. HOWEVER..... knowing that his B12 was in the 600s when you were giving him 2 kind of indicates to me that it is hard for his body to maintain his B12 ..... and yes you did the right thing by withholding B12 capsules for 1 week prior to having the blood tested..... although the body gets rid of any excess B12 if it doesn't need it... it does store it for a short time and this is why it is important to stop oral B12 for 1 week prior to testing and stop injectible 1 month prior to testing. ... or else you will get a false reading of what the actual B12 level is in the dogs body. .."
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R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023
Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned
Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
Tylan for life
"If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever."
Re: B12 Testing
Well, we got our answer. After stopping the pills for a week her B12 levels dropped to 439, back to the weekly shots.
After her blood test last week, I had them give her a B12 shot and I saw an improvement the next morning. Nikki just doesn't do well with the pills for some reason.
After her blood test last week, I had them give her a B12 shot and I saw an improvement the next morning. Nikki just doesn't do well with the pills for some reason.
R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023
Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned
Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
Tylan for life
"If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever."
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Re: B12 Testing
I'm glad you figured out what works best for Nikki!---Pam
Tucker was a shepherd mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Diane's Enzymes 4 t/day, B12 1 capsule/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/day. Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 4 c/day. 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma Nov. 2023. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
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Re: B12 Testing
we supplemented b12 capsules daily right through Karas life, and she had a b12 injection once monthly, their b12 can drop over night, so I would never stop for any reason
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My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
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I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
Re: B12 Testing
I agree. You are finding what works for your pup We were able to rely on daily Wonderlabs Pet Factor to maintain Kolby's B12 levels. But it sounds like you need the injections to achieve that end. Each dog is amazingly different.
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