Kimberly with Jake
Posted: 09 Jun 2021, 11:46
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Bloody Mouth After Eating
Unread post Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:01 am
Good morning,
I am new to this forum (today)! I came across this forum upon searching "bleeding gums in dogs with EPI" and was very excited to find it.
I have a 14 y.o maltese boy "Jake" who very suddenly had the following symptoms back in March:
Horrible diarrhea (cow patty)
Oily substance out of his pooper hole
Incontinance from his pooper hole
throwing up
starving
weight loss (he was only 7-8 lbs to start and dropped to 5 lbs very rapidly
eating his own poop (GROSS)
his liver function test was through the roof at over 1800
After $3,000 in medical I finally found an internal meds doc at a VCA hospital in San Diego, CA
They finally did a GI panel and determined it IS in fact EPI.
The internist has put him on PancreaCare enzyme powder (3/4 to 1 tsp with each meal) and Cobalequim (sp?) B-12 pills 1 x /day. Fortunately, he is gaining weight, cow pattys have stopped, and he is getting along ....although he is still eating his own poop which is absolutely disgusting, and he never did that previously.
The last few days I've noticed two things starting, about 1 month after being on the enzyme powder:
1. Jake has started this horrible FOUL smell like OLD ROTTEN DOG (but I cannot identify it to any spot on his body) I bathe him regularly too.
2. Jake's mouth has started bleeding badly after he eats. Only after eating, he has blood all around his mouth and on his paw (from cleaning his mouth). I feel horrible for him. I pulled up his mouth and do notice his gums look inflamed, maybe ulcers.
I immediately looked this up and found your forum and see that the enzyme powder might be causing this. I have a call into the vet but was wondering what you all have experienced with the PancreaCare enzyme powder (if anyone uses that particular script) and if all EPI powders do this.
What do you give to your EPI dogs for the bleeding mouth/gums?
I already have been adding a little organic chicken broth to his "Just Food 4 Dogs" food to mix up the powder a bit. I have also tried letting it sit a while before feeding it to him right away as I have read about the "incubating" the powder.
Do you all put anything on the poor dog's gums? Vet's office said not to use Hydrogen peroxide mix (toxic for dogs), so I am just waiting to hear back from vet.
Thanks very much for your advice and feedback.
Warm regards,
Jake's mom - Kimberly
I am hoping to have a call with the vet today, so any input/feedback before then would be super helpful.
You can reach me directly at bmwkat@aol.com and thank you SO much for your reply.
Also- do you all buy the enzyme powder in bulk by chance and then split with group?
Warm regards,
Jake's mom - Kimberly
Member
Bloody Mouth After Eating
Unread post Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:01 am
Good morning,
I am new to this forum (today)! I came across this forum upon searching "bleeding gums in dogs with EPI" and was very excited to find it.
I have a 14 y.o maltese boy "Jake" who very suddenly had the following symptoms back in March:
Horrible diarrhea (cow patty)
Oily substance out of his pooper hole
Incontinance from his pooper hole
throwing up
starving
weight loss (he was only 7-8 lbs to start and dropped to 5 lbs very rapidly
eating his own poop (GROSS)
his liver function test was through the roof at over 1800
After $3,000 in medical I finally found an internal meds doc at a VCA hospital in San Diego, CA
They finally did a GI panel and determined it IS in fact EPI.
The internist has put him on PancreaCare enzyme powder (3/4 to 1 tsp with each meal) and Cobalequim (sp?) B-12 pills 1 x /day. Fortunately, he is gaining weight, cow pattys have stopped, and he is getting along ....although he is still eating his own poop which is absolutely disgusting, and he never did that previously.
The last few days I've noticed two things starting, about 1 month after being on the enzyme powder:
1. Jake has started this horrible FOUL smell like OLD ROTTEN DOG (but I cannot identify it to any spot on his body) I bathe him regularly too.
2. Jake's mouth has started bleeding badly after he eats. Only after eating, he has blood all around his mouth and on his paw (from cleaning his mouth). I feel horrible for him. I pulled up his mouth and do notice his gums look inflamed, maybe ulcers.
I immediately looked this up and found your forum and see that the enzyme powder might be causing this. I have a call into the vet but was wondering what you all have experienced with the PancreaCare enzyme powder (if anyone uses that particular script) and if all EPI powders do this.
What do you give to your EPI dogs for the bleeding mouth/gums?
I already have been adding a little organic chicken broth to his "Just Food 4 Dogs" food to mix up the powder a bit. I have also tried letting it sit a while before feeding it to him right away as I have read about the "incubating" the powder.
Do you all put anything on the poor dog's gums? Vet's office said not to use Hydrogen peroxide mix (toxic for dogs), so I am just waiting to hear back from vet.
Thanks very much for your advice and feedback.
Warm regards,
Jake's mom - Kimberly
I am hoping to have a call with the vet today, so any input/feedback before then would be super helpful.
You can reach me directly at bmwkat@aol.com and thank you SO much for your reply.
Also- do you all buy the enzyme powder in bulk by chance and then split with group?
Warm regards,
Jake's mom - Kimberly