flies/maggots

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tlwright21
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flies/maggots

Post by tlwright21 » 24 Jun 2021, 08:59

this is a weird kind of side effect of having a dog with EPI. first of all Jasper is doing great now. Almost has regained all of his weight but ever since he started on his enzymes, I noticed an unusual number of flies that gather on his poop pile immediately after he goes. nothing like this before he got sick. I clean up the yard each day by shoveling his poop into a small garbage pail lined with a plastic bag. each week I remove the plastic bag and put in the garbage can for the garbage man to pick up. In the plastic bag, now, but never before, there are large numbers of maggots just teaming in the poop. I know disgusting. Anyone else have this experience? I'm curious if it is because of the enzyme powder now added to his food or because of something to do with the EPI conditions.

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jilbert57
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Post by jilbert57 » 24 Jun 2021, 09:25

Have you seen any undigested food in the poop?
Has your pup been tested lately for internal parasites?

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My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have one pup. TJ is a 5 year old Jack Russell.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

tlwright21
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Post by tlwright21 » 24 Jun 2021, 13:23

no undigested food and yes a full blown poop test in the last few weeks, makes me think the enzymes are the attractant.

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Jean
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Post by Jean » 24 Jun 2021, 14:51

remind me which enzymes, and is irt all in the bin
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


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Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 24 Jun 2021, 17:00

Not sure about what causes flies to love poop, but maybe there are just more flies now because of the temperatures?

BUT, I would suggest, unless you are opposed to using bug spray, to spray in that bin every day or so, hopefully it will kill anything trying to live in it. Or maybe pour some bleach in there?

I know they can be really hard to get rid of, but the new bag each week should give a 'fresh' start!

Maggots are the worst, so best luck to you. ---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 one capsule per day, slippery elm 1/8 teaspoon twice/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon twice/day (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 3 1/2 cups/day. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 80 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Olesia711
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Re: flies/maggots

Post by Olesia711 » 25 Jun 2021, 08:12

i would like to suggest to have your dog tested for internal parasites.... and also....... if the food is not being thoroughly digested .... for example..... if you are not using the right kind of enzymes, or if you are not using the right amount of enzymes with each meal, everything is not being properly absorbed.

the other thing that may be going on is that your dog has uncontrolled SID that needs to be addressed. All dogs with EPI have SID (small intestinal dysbiosis) ...our objective as EPI caretakers is to keep SID under good control as best we can. This is achieved via:
1. giving prebiotics
2. if that doesn't work, giving pre+probiotics
3. if that doesn't work, start a course of Tylan antibiotic. DO NOT give metronidazole(Flagyl) for SID.

We have had cases that the owner was able to tell when SID was getting out of control because birds would start zooming in on the dog's poo........

Sometimes it is the food that is being fed, although it might be a good food, just isn't optimal for that particular EPI dog and in turn, you are doing everything right, but the food, while not optimally agreeing, is encouraging SID to be out of control.
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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