Transitioning from kibble to raw

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Btekrony
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Transitioning from kibble to raw

Post by Btekrony » 24 Jun 2021, 12:22

I would like to start feeding my 4 year old Shepherd raw food. His trainer recommended Answers pet food. It's a pre-made raw dog food. I purchased the turkey. Here are my questions:

1. For 1 cup of Raw (daily serving for his weight is 2 cups) how much enzymes would you recommend I put into the food. He is on Pantenex. I currently give him 1.5 tsp for 2 cups of kibble.

2. How do I incubate the enzymes. It is wet food so do I still need to put lukewarm water on it and let it sit for 25 minutes?

3. How fast can I start implementing the raw food? I know I need to slowly add it in, but how much would you recommend per week?

Thank you!
George was diagnosed with EPI in May of 2018. He eats 2 cups, twice a day of Purina Pro-Plan Lamb for Sensitive Skin and Stomach. He gets 1 tsp of Pantenex per meal and food is incubated for 30 mins. He also gets 2 B12 capsules with intrinsic factor from Wonderlabs and a probiotic.

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Jean
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Re: Transitioning from kibble to raw

Post by Jean » 24 Jun 2021, 13:21

Good afternoon from Liverpool UK

I have to admit I am not up on Pantenex so I will ask the others for you



Jeanx
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


Jeanx

Tuckaboo Pam
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Re: Transitioning from kibble to raw

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 24 Jun 2021, 13:22

Hi there, and welcome. I don't recognize your name, so that might mean you are new. So, I thought I'd just say hello, and let you know that someone with more experience with Pantenex will pop in and answer, so please check back.

And once again, welcome!---Pam & Tucker
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 one capsule per day, slippery elm 1/8 teaspoon twice/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon twice/day (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 3 1/2 cups/day. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 80 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

Tuckaboo Pam
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Re: Transitioning from kibble to raw

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 26 Jun 2021, 15:00

Jean, were we able to get George's parent & Faye in communication with each other? We used to email each other, so I'd be glad to reach out to her, if needed. ---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 one capsule per day, slippery elm 1/8 teaspoon twice/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon twice/day (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 3 1/2 cups/day. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 80 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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