New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

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Teila
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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Teila » 03 Jan 2022, 17:14

I am a 'newbie' to EPI and my EPI puppy does not arrive here until mid-January; however, I have been following your thread and I am so happy that Harmony is getting back on track!

Your neighbour sounds lovely and I feel she will look after Harmony well.

One thing I have realised on my extensive research is that there are going to be ups and downs but those downs can be fixed!

I have no plans to travel; however, I tossed up whether to keep Ziggy's food journal electronically or in a book; I went with a book so that if I do have to travel or even leave Ziggy at the Vet's, I will be able to hand over his journal to whoever is caring for him with all the do's and don’ts and as a guide to his baseline diet.
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Teila & Ziggy

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Olesia711
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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Olesia711 » 03 Jan 2022, 17:22

Hi Tella,

thanks for posting and that is a great idea to keep these notes in a book so that you can easily hand it to EPI dog/puppy care-givers :)

We typically recommend keeping an EPI journal to track progress or lack of progress and results when you make the one-at-a-time change when attempting to alleviate triggers and to find what the best balance of the suggested EPI protocol works best for your individual EPI dog.... BUT.... keeping a journal or note "book" would also be a GREAT tool or guide to share with those caring for an EPI pet in the owners absence. thanks!
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

Tuckaboo Pam
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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 03 Jan 2022, 20:16

I had the same experience with my enzyme scoop, way back when!

May I ask, why does Harmony take folic acid?

Have fun on your trip!---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, two capsules slippery elm/evening, 1 Proviable capsule/day, and Tylan 1/32 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 4 cups/day. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 80 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by ssmith » 03 Jan 2022, 22:21

In regards to the folic acid, I honestly have no idea. The vet put her on it a few months ago, and I never actually asked why. He said she didn't need it forever but that was it. I doubt she really needs it, but I also figure it can't hurt, so I am gonna use it up and then not buy more. I guess I probably should have asked why she needed it before giving it to her. oops.

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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Jane&Clyde » 03 Jan 2022, 23:18

Folic acid is involved in several processes in the body, most of which are WAY beyond my knowledge and comprehension. However, I understand that it helps the body absorb Vitamin B12 and helps the B12 in some of it's functions. This could be why the vet wants you to give it. Folic acid is such a good "partner" with B12 that it is included with many B12 supplements, including the Wonderlabs Pet Factor B12 that many of us give our dogs.

ssmith
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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by ssmith » 06 Jan 2022, 19:47

Just a quick Harmony update. Her new enzymes came in and she is getting her proper dose (I am actually measuring this time with a tsp!) and her poop looks fantastic! I have never been so excited to see some dog poop haha. I am excited to see how much weight she puts on in the next couple weeks!

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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Jane&Clyde » 07 Jan 2022, 13:36

That's such great news! I'm so happy for you both!

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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 07 Jan 2022, 17:53

HAPPY POOP DANCE! I swear I sometimes stop myself, just in the nick of time, from talking about Tucker's poop to other people. It's such an every day thing for me, and we are all so comfortable talking about it, here. Please pray for me to keep my wits!
---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, two capsules slippery elm/evening, 1 Proviable capsule/day, and Tylan 1/32 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 4 cups/day. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 80 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

ssmith
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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by ssmith » 09 Jan 2022, 12:16

Haha, nobody wants to go through my camera roll because it has a lot of poop pics. The vet wants to see all the pictures so we gotta take lots;) Here is her poop pic I got from my neighbor yesterday! It's the best I've seen in months!
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Tuckaboo Pam
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Re: New Diagnosis and Treament Not Working

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 09 Jan 2022, 13:25

AWESOME! Tuck eats Sport Dog Elite buffalo & sweet potato for herding dogs. It's black, and you can see his poop from 50 feet! You are doing great!---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, two capsules slippery elm/evening, 1 Proviable capsule/day, and Tylan 1/32 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 4 cups/day. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 80 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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