2 week update on my reba! caution stool picture

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2 week update on my reba! caution stool picture

Post by kaseydawn » 11 Sep 2018, 13:30

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first time adding pictures so i hope they worked. one should be a picture of her stool the other day. i feel like this is a big improvement from the cow patty consistancy it was 2 weeks ago. the other picture (if you can see it) is of her food label. after an hour in the pet store reading labels i decided on trying diamond naturals small breed. the fiber is only 3% and it has some prebiotics in there, along with some omegas and vitamines. plus its a really small kibble so i figured that may help some with digestion. she is now eating 2-1/2 cups of food a day in 2 meals. still on the prozyme but with the improvement i didnt want to make alot of changes. and the tylan powder added as well and b 12 injection every 2 weeks. im going to give her 2 more weeks on this combo and then reacess agin. her weight today was 17.45! shes was just 17#. so i call that a win, as of 2 weeks ago she was still loosing.

thanks to everyone here, if i hadn't ran across this site i dont know what would be becoming of my little Reba.
diagnosed august 2018 with EPI. currently on 1/8 tsp tylan twice daily, 1/4 tsp prozyme twice daily, pancreatin x 6 1/2 tsp twice daily, Diamond naturals small breed adult and a vitamine b12 injection every 2 weeks :D

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Post by jilbert57 » 11 Sep 2018, 13:50

Wow that's a big improvement on the poop! That is a good % on the fiber. Perhaps if the stool doesn't eventually firm up I might ask that you try a food without the barley, peas and rice. But if your pup does well on it stay the course! Usually EPI pups do best on grain free diet.
We get poop pics on here all the time!
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Post by Madelon » 11 Sep 2018, 21:51

I love your caption "caution stool picture" - it's so funny to me that poop pictures don't bother me - years ago it might have but since having an EPI dog I live for inspecting poop.

That poop, while better than cow pie, look a bit unsettled to me. I agree with Jill - look for a food with less grain, etc. Also, a lot of EPI dogs don't do well with chicken so you might consider trying a food without chicken. Also I noticed a lot of other stuff like pumpkin, kelp, oranges, chick pea etc. Just a few months ago I tried changing my boy's food - same company same protein - the only thing different was a few herbs - his poop went straight south - diarrhea! You'd be surprised how some of these new foods with all of their new fancy ingredients don't agree with the dog's system. I would look for a food with less ingredients so you know what works and what doesn't.
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.

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Post by Barb » 12 Sep 2018, 14:33

Congratulations on the stool improvement and the weight gain. You are doing great. Reba is responding well. You might want to try a food without grain.....and peas seem to be a problem for some of our dogs. Be sure to keep a daily log if you do decide to try something new. You can see the effects of the change in your written entries.

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Post by Riley's Mom » 13 Sep 2018, 00:47

Glad to see you have some improvement. Even if you get the food just right, you probably won't see optimal results until you get a porcine based enzyme on board.
And poop pictures don't scare us at all. :lol:
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Riley is a 10 year old Labradoodle. She was diagnosed with EPI in 2014.
She currently eats Taste of the Wild, I cup in the morning, 2 cups in the evening, each meal with 1 Wonderlabs B12 sprinkled over her dinner. Enzymes are EnzymeDiane, 1 tsp per cup of food, mixed in home made bone broth. No other supplements or meds at this time.
Riley currently weighs about 44 pounds, which is pretty heavy for her.

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Post by Judy » 13 Sep 2018, 07:24

Poop pictures are great!
Piper was 13 months old when she began having symptoms and diagnosed at 16 months of age. She had lost 21 lbs from Oct 2013 to Jan 2014 but gained it back very quickly once she began enzymes, B12 and Tylan. She would go on to develop Hypothyroidism, Cushings Disease, SLO, SARDS as well as chronic infections. Through it all, she was just the happiest dog and never met a stranger, everyone was her friend.

Piper crossed the Rainbow Bridge on April 20th, 2018 at just 5 years of age from other auto immune diseases. She will be forever missed, forever loved and her spirit will live on in our hearts and our home.

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Post by kaseydawn » 27 Sep 2018, 16:22

:lol: thanks everyone! being a tech warning just comes natural :lol: her stools are about the same now, so i decided to buck up and order the enzyme. i started it yesterday. so heres hoping they firm up a little. if no improvement then yes the next step is a complete grain free, it just makes me nervous. she's half westie and all this chatter about legumes (how ever its spelled)/ grain free diets potentially causing heart disease i feel like shes somewhat prone anyway. but with a 50% ish improvement on this food..?..may continue with it, b 12, and the enzyme for a couple more weeks cause thats how much longer she has on her tylan powder anyway. and see how she does off of that as well.

uhg i have a new understanding for my clients with problem furbabies now :shock:

but thanks everyone for your input!
diagnosed august 2018 with EPI. currently on 1/8 tsp tylan twice daily, 1/4 tsp prozyme twice daily, pancreatin x 6 1/2 tsp twice daily, Diamond naturals small breed adult and a vitamine b12 injection every 2 weeks :D

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Post by Olesia711 » 27 Sep 2018, 23:38

okay... so i did not read the title of your post.... just opened it and WHAMO... Big pic of big poop up close and personal.... i burst out laughing as i then read your warning..... still laughing....................

Kudo's this IS improvement so you are heading in the right direction.
I also agree with everyone else... if the poo doesn't firm up a bit more over a little more time..... then you might want to look at a different brand of food, try something with less peas and no barley .....

However.... just got to say... i like your game plan.... real enzymes next step and the fact that you are trying changes one at a time, assessing, and then deciding your next move. Good Job!
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Post by Jean » 28 Sep 2018, 03:58

I love that name Reba, Reba McIntyre is one of my favourite singers

anyway, back to business,

the poop pics are really helpful

I agree that maybe a grain free food, and that includes rice, is the way forward

and that is a great weight gain, even more so in a small dog, who by the way is gorgeous

thank you also for adding Reba's daily routine to your posts, it makes life so much easier, could I ask you to put her weight here too

you might want to reconsider the Tylan dose, which is weight related

https://epi4dogs.com/antibiotics/

to maybe 1/16th teaspoon twice daily

so onward and upwarrd, keep a journal,

and keep in touch, and remember , we have all been there, my girl at 14 months was 39 pounds, like a skeleton, so take heart

Jean
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

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My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


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Post by Riley's Mom » 29 Oct 2018, 15:51

Any updates with the changeover to porcine based enzymes?
Elisabeth

Riley is a 10 year old Labradoodle. She was diagnosed with EPI in 2014.
She currently eats Taste of the Wild, I cup in the morning, 2 cups in the evening, each meal with 1 Wonderlabs B12 sprinkled over her dinner. Enzymes are EnzymeDiane, 1 tsp per cup of food, mixed in home made bone broth. No other supplements or meds at this time.
Riley currently weighs about 44 pounds, which is pretty heavy for her.

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