Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

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Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

Post by toddkulp » 03 Dec 2018, 20:26

Are the measurements in cups dry cups (weight) or volume? Also, if volume, then how do I determine cups for wet food given that density changes measurement? HELP!

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Re: Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

Post by Olesia711 » 03 Dec 2018, 20:48

for dry food (kibble) the measurement is listed on the back of the package. Use a measuring cup
for wet food (canned) also just use a measuring cup.

If trying to decide how much enzymes to give with either wet or dry food. Rule of thumb is to start with

1 level tsp of enzymes per 1 cup of dry food
1/2 to 3/4 level tsp of enzymes per 1 cup of wet food

Watch the poos for a few days and adjust the enzyme dose accordingly if needed. Usually we adjust up (by 1/8 of a tsp at a time) ... but sometimes, we have to adjust down by 1/8 tsp at a time)

Keep an EPI log/Journal / good notes to help you figure out what works and what doesn't and then what adjustments you might need to make :)
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Re: Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

Post by toddkulp » 03 Dec 2018, 21:15

Olesia7: thank you for your reply, but I am not sure it's answering the question. Wet ounces are different than dry ounces. So, are you (and ALL others) saying use volume (liquid) or weight? For reference, from the internet:

"It is important to note that volume ounces are not the same as weight ounces. Liquids and other wet ingredients will likely be measured in volume ounces while dry ingredients (like beans, flour, or sugar) will be measured in weight ounces. On packaged goods, volume ounces are listed as ‘NET OZ FL’ where FL stands for fluid and weight ounces are listed as ‘NET WT OZ’ where WT stands for weight. To convert between volume and weight measurements you would need to know the density of the ingredient, so this is not done often."

I understand how much enzyme to use once I get the answer to this.

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Re: Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

Post by Olesia711 » 03 Dec 2018, 22:52

i understand what you are asking and the difference between wet and dry weights & volume...i assumed you were asking to to know what the appropriate amount of enzymes would be with which measurement of which type of food.

We allow for density via the amount of enzymes given due to the type of food, wet or dry. We do not measure by the density of the food.

Therefore:
with 1 cup of dry food = 1 tsp of enzymes
with 1 cup of wet food = 1/2 tsp-3/4 tsp enzymes
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

Post by Jean » 04 Dec 2018, 03:59

this question has been the bane of my life for long time

the US work in pounds , cups etc

the UK does not

we work in kilos and grams

e.g 1. cup = 8.325 imperial ouces (liquid)

1 cup kibble is equal to 8 ounces which is = to 224 grams ish

etc etc

does any of this answer your question

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Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

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Re: Measurement - Cups ( weight? volume? wet food? )

Post by Olesia711 » 04 Dec 2018, 11:09

Jean.... the lady was asking about measurement in relation to food density....

HOWEVER.... just general measurement comparisons is a great idea ... i'll work on putting something together :)
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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