Sassy says HI and Thank You!!!

[RichardB]

Does SID result in continuing cow pies? Can they have SID without the cow pies?

Thanks,
Richard

[jilbert57]

Yes. Alot of the time at diagnosis the vet will wait to see if the enzymes firm up the poop in a week or so. If not, metro or preferably Tylan will be given for 45 days, 2 times a day to rid of SID.

[RichardB]

You All are helping a lot more than my vet is. There was no instruction from her on anything. She might have been offended by my ordering the enzyme from Diane and the B12 from Wonderlab, I don't know. Other than her mentioning EPI and doing the blood work while charging me $329 for it, she offered no other help or even suggestions. I have a tendency to be too loyal at times. She's been my vet for about 25 years.

Thanks EPI4dogs!!!
Richard

[Jean]

if she is offended then its a shame

why dont you share with her some information from this website, you can print anything off

all of our recommendations are from personal experiences as none of us are medically qualified

we come up through the University of life !

however, the research is very well backed by some of the big guns in veternarian science, both in US and Uk, indeed the man who created the EPI cTLI test, David Williams, is very much in touch with our founder Olesia when necessary, and I would like to mention he was at Liverpool University UK when this happened in the 80's, and as you may be aware its where I am from, he was also a colleague of my vet

please share with her, she may not know

Jean

[RichardB]

They said they only see maybe 2 cases of this a year. I had adopted a male about 10 years ago that had anal fistulas, talk about an expensive heartbreak!!! I was taking him to UC Davis for what I thought would be one of the best places in the world, and was greatly disappointed in them. I did finally get the anal fistulas under control when he developed some kind of paralysis that could not be cured. What a regal, handsome good boy he was, he didn't deserve what life threw at him, still brings tears to my eyes.
On a happier note!!! Sassy is still doing great!!! And both are adjusting to the new eating schedule. He, Buddy was the problem, but he's eating more now and adjusting. Sassy is fine and her poops are good; not the same as Buddies, but no where near cow pies! She's eating twice as much as her brother and pooping a lot more too. Maybe he's processing it better than her. Do you notice that with your dogs? Is your EPI dog stool ever the same as your non-EPI dog, or what she did before EPI?

Thanks,
Richard

[Riley's Mom]

She could be pooping more for a couple of reasons.....
First you are feeding her more, so that will increase output.
Then you have a body that's recovering, before she was diagnosed she was literally starving, so it takes a little while for her body to catch back up.
The other thing is sometimes you can see lots of poop or poop that isn't quite right if the food isn't quite right. I wouldn't change her food right now, she seems to be doing well. But I would keep it in the back of my mind that a change might need to happen in the future if things don't settle in the way they need to.
On a side note, there are a lot of vets that don't know much about EPI. The best ones aren't necessarily the ones that already know it all, but rather the ones that are willing to learn with you.

[Madelon]

So glad to hear Sassy is doing well. Yes they can have SID without the cow pies. We have a saying, "if you've met one EPI dog, then you've met ONE EPI dog" - they are all different and present symptoms of EPI and SID differently. Some dogs will only have burping, some will have gas, some will throw up, some have cow pies, and some have all of the symptoms. Unfortunately there is no "test" for SID and it's diagnosed based on symptoms.

As for the poops, as Elisabeth said there are a few possibilities for more output. If the poops are good then I wouldn't worry about it too much. My dogs (both EPI and non-EPI) will poop more based on activity and weather - the summer when it's hot and they are more active they will typically poop more than during the non-active winter.

Be sure you're keeping a log of everything and I highly recommend pictures of poop

[RichardB]

Thanks for the replies. I got a little lazy yesterday with my log and pics. Nothing is changing in what I'm giving her 3 times a day, so I just noted same. I got busy with things around the house so I didn't get any pics. But I do have pics of almost every other poop since starting the enzymes and a few from before. We had some more rain yesterday and today, so that doesn't help the poop or the pics. Otherwise all is well! I don't think anyone expected good results as fast as they happened. You prepared me to be prepared when the final diagnosis came in. Thank You!

Richard

[RichardB]

Sassy's latest Poop! Created 2:PM, April 2, 2019!

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Trying to attach a pic or her latest Poop as of 2:PM today. Not sure how or if this will work.

[RichardB]

Looks like it worked! Is that a face only a Mother would love?