How much dry food to give.

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henderson
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How much dry food to give.

Post by henderson » 19 Jun 2019, 13:12

Hi

I was just wondering how much dry food we should be giving our 6yr old GS....we feed him james wellbeloved.....we have been feeding Zak 700g per day, the suggested amount is 500g but he is still losing weight. He has lost 2kg in the last few weeks, our vet has suggested increasing his food by 5% as he is currently suffering with acid....many thanks.

Elaine

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Re: How much dry food to give.

Post by Miss Maddie Moo » 19 Jun 2019, 13:49

Hello

Can you tell us a bit more about your dogs epi it may be something
else thats missing for instance my gal was was low on B12 she lost weight ...what ratio of enzymes to food ? what do the poops look like ? has he had any antibiotics are you spreading the food out over 3 meals.700 seems about correct to start with i had a female and she was on 600 grams per day.
Maddie DX April 2011 along with low B12 she was feed with a low fibre food below 3% , fat was not restricted ( she wasnt good on pea based foods ) She initially had a course of B12 shots weekly over a period of 6 months and then we used the B12 pills from Chemeyes in the UK . We used Panzym and slowly had to increase the dose as she aged when she was first DX she was 23kg but she gained weight quickly and got back to 33 kg .
Maddie gained her angel wings in Jan 2018 at the age of 10 to a condition unrelated to EPI.
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Re: How much dry food to give.

Post by jilbert57 » 19 Jun 2019, 15:42

Welcome to the forum. Ann asks some good questions that will help us.
Has your dog been diagnosed with EPI using the fasting test cTli? Thanks.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 13, TJ is a 4 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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Re: How much dry food to give.

Post by Jean » 20 Jun 2019, 01:27

Hi Elaine

long time no hear

are you still using Panzym, I know you said it made Zak weird last time you posted, and I think you said no antibiotics at some point, and acid was an issue

we used Ranitadine 1 tablet 30 mins before food, and I would up the food more than 5%, any rumbling tum ?

you know where I am if you need to talk

Jean
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


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Re: How much dry food to give.

Post by henderson » 20 Jun 2019, 06:33

Thanks Jean
He has been on Panzym since we spoke and has been great.... also changing his food was best thing ever.....vets gave him Zantac last night, told us to up his food and to weigh him in 4 weeks or so and hopefully he wont keep losing weight...his poo can be really soft in the morning but then fine late afternoon....will see how he goes with more food...

Elaine

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Re: How much dry food to give.

Post by Jean » 20 Jun 2019, 07:04

thats good news Elaine

Zantac is Ranitadine, and you can buy them at Wilko's, Home Bargain etc. for a fraction of what the vets charge, they are around £1.00 for 12, try 30 mins before food, it worked for us

i am so pleased the food worked for you, and the Panzym

good luck

let us know

j
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


Jeanx

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Post by Madelon » 26 Jun 2019, 22:08

Hi! We recommend feeding 150% of the food for the weight your dog SHOULD be - not the weight your dog is. So if your dog should be 95lbs and only weights 75lbs - look at the recommended feeding for 95lbs - if you're looking at the right recommended dose at 500grams then 150% would be 750grams not 700 grams. Even that 50grams at each meal can help to gain the weight. Are you supplementing B12? B12 is critical in properly managing EPI.
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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