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Michaela
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Re: Grain free

Post by Michaela » 20 Sep 2019, 23:12

After looking into this topic some more I came across this FB group that has a ton of info if anyone is interested.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/about/

R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023

Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned
Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
Tylan for life


"If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever."

Corgeze
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Re: Grain free

Post by Corgeze » 25 Sep 2019, 19:53

The link to the cardio group on facebook is very informative and I do belong to that group. However they advise getting off of grain free food and this group advises to stay on it. Confuses a person even more.

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Re: Grain free

Post by jilbert57 » 25 Sep 2019, 22:10

All of the diets serve a purpose. One reason a grain free diet is encouraged with EPI is the grains can inhibit how well the enzymes work for the dogs. If you feed grain free make sure meats are first and try to go away from peas and or lentils, or make sure those items are low on the list. Manufacturers are now using pea fiber, peas, garbanzos instead of meat for proteins.

https://epi4dogs.com/why-grainfree-foods/

https://epi4dogs.com/taurine-grainfree-diets/

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My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

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Michaela
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Re: Grain free

Post by Michaela » 25 Sep 2019, 22:25

Corgeze wrote: 25 Sep 2019, 19:53 The link to the cardio group on facebook is very informative and I do belong to that group. However they advise getting off of grain free food and this group advises to stay on it. Confuses a person even more.
I'm still reading through the UNITS and am shocked at how many dogs have gotten sick with DCM. Nikki's food is on the safe list (Royal Canin) so I have stopped supplementing with Taurine.

R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023

Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
Royal Canin Gastrointestinal Low Fat canned
Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
Tylan for life


"If there ever comes a day when we can't be together, keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever."

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Re: Grain free

Post by Madelon » 25 Sep 2019, 22:35

We recommend treating the condition you know your dog has - in this case EPI - which MOST (not all but MOST) do better on grain free food. You have to really get into the weeds of the grain free, taurine issue to fully understand it because it's confusing - grain free does not cause DCM and there is much more research needed. What we know is that grains can interfere with the efficacy of enzymes but how much we do not know for certain, especially because every EPI dog is different as to what they can tolerate and what they can't. Here's the link to our page on on grain free and taurine issue https://epi4dogs.com/taurine-grainfree-diets/
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.

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