New Skinny Dog
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New Skinny Dog
I am rescuing a very skinny hound mix, and I wonder if you have any advice. I think maybe her problem has been underfeeding, so I'm starting there, adding 50% more kibble, and I'm adding B12, if that makes sense. I have not yet seen her poo, because she's still stressed & hasn't gone (she came last night & has eaten twice), but here's my problem----I can't remember what the early stages of EPI looked like for Tucker; I know it was in the last few months before treatment that I noticed the extremely awful poo & the manic desire to eat it, but I don't remember much else, other than he was always a little skinny. This girl is extremely skinny, and I'm not going to be able to pay for a test for her, so in the meantime are there early signs someone can point me to? I'll come back with a poo report as soon as I see some, and my fingers are crossed that all she needs is some extra calories & some TLC. Thanks, guys. Pam
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
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Addendum: The only reason I've taken on this responsibility is, she's my grandson's dog, and he is a little less heartbroken, knowing he can come visit her anythime. Also, this girl is u g l y, bless her heart, and I doubt she'd ever get adopted by anyone else! . P
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
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SUCH a good poo!!!! Yea! So, any hints are simply fattening her up? Thanks! Pam (I realize this is off subject, so I won't be mentioning her again)
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
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Pam , nothing off subject, and that I am so happy this dog has a good home, and thank you for doing this
please let us know all about her, she is now family, we need a picture,
Jean
please let us know all about her, she is now family, we need a picture,
Jean
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
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Pam, so nice of you to do this! Even ugly dogs need someone lol and they thrive and sometimes turn out to be the best dogs!
You could add a little coconut oil, add a kong with biscuit and peanut butter in it.
Jill
You could add a little coconut oil, add a kong with biscuit and peanut butter in it.
Jill
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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GREAT idea! She will have to stay in her crate while I'm at work, until we can learn more about her; the peanut butter & biscuit in a kong is perfect. Thanks so much!---Pam Oh, we now have a basketball team, if you know what I mean.
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
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fraid I dont Pam
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
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How wonderful of you to give this girl a home so that she and your grandson can still be close. A lovely example for him, too. I also hope that you are just dealing with her needing more calories and lots of TLC....but just in case here are some other things to look for if you are suspicious of EPI. Every dog is different and some give more signs than others at the beginning.
Our Kolby had poops that were sometimes large, and off and on would have a tinge of yellow in them. It wasn't all the time, so that sort of threw us off at the beginning.
Some dogs get diarrhea, either off and on, or nonstop.
Some dogs' poos have a strong unpleasant odor.
Some dogs have voluminous stools all the time.
Many dogs seem continually hungry (Kolby did not act that way). Some eat their stools.
Weight loss. Kolby did start to lose slowly....a pound here and there.
Change in behavior. Some dogs act fearful or dog aggressive....or if their B12 is low, as is usually the case, they might become lethargic and stop wanting to eat. Kolby suddenly became fearful of getting in the car, which he used to love (he was 1 year when diagnosed).
Many dogs exhibit tummy sounds and noises.....they might be gassy and seem uncomfortable.
We hope your pup is just getting adjusted. Please let us know how she is doing. She is a lucky girl to have you. And your grandson is very fortunate also.
Barb
Our Kolby had poops that were sometimes large, and off and on would have a tinge of yellow in them. It wasn't all the time, so that sort of threw us off at the beginning.
Some dogs get diarrhea, either off and on, or nonstop.
Some dogs' poos have a strong unpleasant odor.
Some dogs have voluminous stools all the time.
Many dogs seem continually hungry (Kolby did not act that way). Some eat their stools.
Weight loss. Kolby did start to lose slowly....a pound here and there.
Change in behavior. Some dogs act fearful or dog aggressive....or if their B12 is low, as is usually the case, they might become lethargic and stop wanting to eat. Kolby suddenly became fearful of getting in the car, which he used to love (he was 1 year when diagnosed).
Many dogs exhibit tummy sounds and noises.....they might be gassy and seem uncomfortable.
We hope your pup is just getting adjusted. Please let us know how she is doing. She is a lucky girl to have you. And your grandson is very fortunate also.
Barb
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Jean, we now have five dogs, and that is enough for a basketball team! We have a shepherd mix (EPI Tucker), a hound mix, a maltipoo, a maltese, and a Jack Russell/sheltie cross. They are all found/rehomed to us, they are a motely crew, and they don't always get along.
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
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Nothing is off topic in this group and THANK YOU for taking care of this pup If you're dealing with some off poops, Slippery Elm is great for a non-EPI dog or an EPI dog. As Jill said if you're trying to add weight try organic cold pressed coconut oil, salmon oil and feeding a bit extra. You could also try satin balls - we use a lot of those in the rescue I volunteer with. Keep us posted as we love ALL dogs
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.
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