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jilbert57
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Re: Sibo

Post by jilbert57 » 23 Jan 2020, 21:38

Here is the Tylan chart, here given every 12 hrs:

https://epi4dogs.com/antibiotics/

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My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 13, TJ is a 4 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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Re: Sibo

Post by Madelon » 23 Jan 2020, 22:01

Hi there. I was hoping once your vet read the research and information on our site she would have seen that 45 days and then slowly wean off is what's recommended. At Yogi's weight you'll need 1/4tsp tylan every 12hrs. You can get it without a prescription at Jedds Bird Supplies - because so many of us have been going to Jedds and Foys (i think that's the name) they have started running low on supplies. We always say you don't need a vet experienced in EPI but one that is willing to learn with you which unfortunately doesn't seem to be the case here. So, while you are looking for a new vet, go ahead and get the Tylan powder (also called Tylosin) from Jedd's and give it for 45 days and then slowly wean off - do not quit cold turkey. By the way, can't remember, have you tried Slippery Elm Bark powder?
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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Re: Sibo

Post by Yogibear » 24 Jan 2020, 09:28

Thank you guys and no I did not try the slippery elm just because the I'm worried about the emergency situation that could happen when giving it. But I should have just tried that. I see doc is on slippery elm is that something you use for more than 45 days? And has he had any trouble with it. I also asked my vet about switching to grain free. She said no you don't want to do that because grain free effects the heart.

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Post by Tuckaboo. » 25 Jan 2020, 12:24

Tiffany, I sent you a message about Foy's before I noticed Madelon's post. I am so pleased with my purchase. Down from $114.00 to $39.00, and it came pretty quickly. Hope you have great luck with this. ---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix, adopted on craigslist; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 3 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 capsules 1/day, and Tylan 1/5 teaspoon/day. Thriving on Sport Dog Food Elite/Herding Dog. No more coprophagia, his weight is steady, and he is a happy member of the family, if a bit of a bully with his four siblings from time to time. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Post by Tuckaboo. » 25 Jan 2020, 12:29

Also, I told you it was 1000g, but it's actually 100g. Same exact size I paid $114 for, too!--PH
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix, adopted on craigslist; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 3 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 capsules 1/day, and Tylan 1/5 teaspoon/day. Thriving on Sport Dog Food Elite/Herding Dog. No more coprophagia, his weight is steady, and he is a happy member of the family, if a bit of a bully with his four siblings from time to time. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Post by Yogibear » 25 Jan 2020, 17:47

Hi pam I just looked at the message and I must have missed that. Just glad I don't have to deal with that vet of mine to try to get more tylan because I'm sure she won't give me any more. Thanks so much for the info it will be saving me lots of money. And my yogibear needs it!

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Re: Sibo

Post by Tuckaboo. » 12 Feb 2020, 19:02

Tiffany, how are things going with Yogi?---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix, adopted on craigslist; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 3 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 capsules 1/day, and Tylan 1/5 teaspoon/day. Thriving on Sport Dog Food Elite/Herding Dog. No more coprophagia, his weight is steady, and he is a happy member of the family, if a bit of a bully with his four siblings from time to time. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Re: Sibo

Post by Madelon » 16 Feb 2020, 21:45

Hi Tiffany. What emergency situations are you concerned with Slippery Elm? I haven't heard of any so far. Doc has been on it for 3 years now - it's a prebiotic mucilage that coats the gastrointestinal tract - some EPI dogs seem to do better on it.
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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Post by Patsy » 17 Feb 2020, 15:05

It’s used for humans too.My ninety year old f-in-law used a similar mucilage every day for his diverticulitis. It helps protect and soothe the gut. No side effects to my knowledge.
Springer spaniel Marti had Epi, PLE , MMM just to confuse me. She lived till 12yrs, chubby and happy despite eight years of epi.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.

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