Sheltie Cubbie Roo

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Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by cgourley » 22 Apr 2020, 21:04

Thanks, Barb. We are currently steady. No tootsie roll —more like Reese peanut butter cup. Clearly, stopping the Tylosin for even a day and a half was not good. Once back on Tylosin we moved in the right direction. Stopped slippery elm & gabapentin. He had his second b12 shot yesterday and will now get those weekly now. He is eating Anamaet Lean. I have learned more about how to incubate the enzyme powder. One day at a time. My vet wants me to give him a second tablet of provusble. I will try that tonight and monitor the results. My boy is happy tho. Playful. And that is good.

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Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by cgourley » 25 Apr 2020, 10:34

What a difference a week makes! Cubbie Roo is doing so much better! My vet recommended giving him a second Proviable at night. I was cautious but in fact, it really helped to firm up the stools. I also stopped feeding the boiled chicken.So what I cut out was the chicken, the slippery elm, and the gabapentin.

The biggest factor for me is the timing of meds. I now give the Proviable between meals, at least two hours after the tylosin. I give the tylosin with a meal. But I have to prepare the dry food a minimum of 30 minutes (for incubation) before feeding. He is now eating out of a dish and not my hand.

He returns on Tuesday for his B12 injection and pain med for his arthritic hips. My hope is that this week he will not have lost weight still again. I will be happy is he held his weight. I realize it will take time for him to gain. But now I have hope he will. For anyone who a recently diagnosed pet, keep the faith! Pay attention to timing of distribution of meds. Another tip: take photos of the poop to show your vet. It really helps them do their job.

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Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by jilbert57 » 25 Apr 2020, 11:11

Thanks for the update! Let us know how the appointment goes.

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My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
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Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by Madelon » 26 Apr 2020, 11:43

Hi and welcome - sorry I'm late to be replying but looks like Olesia as usual has given you the best advice!! Glad to hear the update and good on you for figuring things out! Keep us posted and keep up the good work!
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.

cgourley
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Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by cgourley » 26 Apr 2020, 12:53

Thank you! I just read what you are administering to your dog. This has been a real learning experience for me. This morning, I found a chewed up tylosin indicating my guy spit it out somehow when I wasn't looking I won't be surprised if he has a little backslide as he obviously missed a dose. I suspect once the round of B12 shots are complete, I'll start the B12 pills, (purchased as recommended on this site at Wonderlabs). Keeping a log is helping quite a bit as well. A great side effect of this treatment - that is in getting it under control - is that his breath is so much better.

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Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by Madelon » 26 Apr 2020, 14:11

Glad the breath is better - makes the kisses better :) . If you have trouble with pills, try giving the pill in a glob of cream cheese - I volunteer at a rescue group and this works with even the hardest to pill dogs - not sure why but they love cream cheese and aren't able to spit the pill out like they do with other things.
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.

cgourley
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Location: Clarks Summit, PA
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My name: Cathy

Re: Sheltie Cubbie Roo

Post by cgourley » 13 May 2020, 07:29

Cubbie Roo’s update: my bit had a better week so I was surprised that he had lost another pound when he went for his weekly B12 shot. He is happy and playful, but I am feeling discouraged. The vet says I must stay the course, that this will take time. Should I change enzymes?

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