Low phosphorus dog food

[Eva]

Hello I have a 6year old male Bouvier mix with king Shepard. He had full bloodwork in early July. Everything came back normal except his SDMA was 18. Vet said could be early warning sign of stage one renal and to put him on Hills KD. I refused as I did research and not only all the problems with the company and ingredients but for early renal to low protein can make a dog worse. I tried him on performatrin senior 0.54 phosphorus for one month and he did terrible no energy very lethargic tires quickly so vet had me put him on royal canin mature consult large breed. He has been on it 3weeks and had a severe allergic reaction. Bumps hives chewed himself raw. Called vet he said take him off and put on benedril. He doesn't know were to go from here with dog food. I picked him up a bag of wellness senior hese been on two days he doesn't like the food and isn't a picky eater normally. I called wellness the phosphorus is max 0.68 percent as fed. If anyone has any food recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Sorry for long msg but just want to give all info.

[jilbert57]

hi Eva, does your dog have Epi? If so will you give a little background and also post the test results for the Tli, folate and B12 so we can help?

Jill

[Buttermom1]

Hey Eva. What were the phosphorous numbers?Were the other numbers normal? Were they high normal? Did they do a urinalysis as well? Taking just the SDMA number doesn’t show much. While it’s a great early indicator of kidney disease, it shouldn’t be taken in its own. As far as low phosphorous foods, there are several out there. With a bigger dog I don’t know if you’re looking for kibble or canned or raw, but for kibble sometimes the limited ingredient foods are lower. The research is showing that restricting protein is not such a good thing, and since you’ve got a puppy, that’s really not a good idea. My current pup was diagnosed with congenital renal dysplasia at about 6 months old and we’re feeding Weruva canned food and have had wonderful results. However, she’s only 9 pounds and it’s much easier in the pocket book. We also are feeding her Orijen kibble. Both of these are compatible with EPI as well.
I would suggest joking a Facebook group, Canine Kidney Disease. They are super helpful and have loads of information.

[Eva]

All of his levels are normal but SDMA. 18. I am just trying to find kibble or raw made but so far raw is out of the question for made that has appropriate levels which can change batch to batch. He is wimpering pacing very depressed. Walking away from his food. I put down my 14yr hound last week which he has been with since 8weeks. He knows he is gone as he saw him after I brought him home briefly so he wouldn't search.

[Buttermom1]

If you are interested in pre-made raw, you might want to look at Darwin’s. I don’t recall what the phosphorous levels of their regular diets are, but they make a specific kidney diet. All of their diets are also EPI friendly. There are numerous articles and sites online that discuss lower phosphorous foods and rate them according to that level. Read and learn before looking for kidney specific foods, and make sure they follow the EPI guidelines so you don’t throw that out of whack. Most of all, don’t panic. If all the other numbers were normal and the urinalysis was good, you can breathe easier.
Is the EPI stable in your pup?

[Eva]

The vet never did urinalysis just full bloodwork I questioned him on if I should do a urine test but he said no. I was shocked he said wate 6 months and retest. I have looked into the raw that was mentioned I can't get it were I live. Epi? Don't know if that was tested all I know is all bloodwork came back normal including creatin except SDMA 18. I'm really hoping he is off only because of the stress of my other dog. I have him a bath with eucalyptus and tea trea oil yesterday and it helped him a bit with itching and the swelling lumps have gone down 60 percent in two days

[Buttermom1]

Well, that makes things interesting. This is a forum for folks who have pets with EPI (exocrine pancreatic insufficiency).

[Olesia711]

Hi Eva,

As Susan mentioned this forum main focus is for people with dogs that have EPI... but we have run into some who do have kidney issues too. SUsan gave you some good suggestions regarding how to looks for foods for kidney issues..... maybe if you research kidney disease and diets you can find even more information about what to do.

Here is also a FaceBook with over 9,000 members with dogs with kidney disease... maybe this also would be a good site for you to check out:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/211455130573/

[Eva]

Okay thankyou

[Buttermom1]

Eva, I urge you to join the Facebook group. They are incredibly helpful. Get a copy of the bloodwork so you can post them on their page.