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- Jean
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that's good to know and they do sting
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of
My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day
Lowest weight 39 pounds
We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules
Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM
Jeanx
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We gave Kolby B12 injections for years before we switched to Wonderlabs pills and he never reacted at all. He didn't even feel them as they were given subcutaneously in the loose skin between the shoulder blades. As someone else said pulled up like a tent. They should not hurt at all. And yes, it should be the cobalamin, not any of the B combinations or they could sting, but not the cobalamin. The needle should be the right size also or they will feel it. We used 25 G single monoject. Worked like a charm.
Barb
Barb
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Hi Barb,
Thanks for that information, I’ll mention it on Monday at Toby’s next appointment.
The Wonderlabs pills I think are to pricey to get over here and Jean has already mentioned the brand available here of which we’ll be using once his injections have finished.
Thanks again
Thanks for that information, I’ll mention it on Monday at Toby’s next appointment.
The Wonderlabs pills I think are to pricey to get over here and Jean has already mentioned the brand available here of which we’ll be using once his injections have finished.
Thanks again
Barb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2022, 16:32 We gave Kolby B12 injections for years before we switched to Wonderlabs pills and he never reacted at all. He didn't even feel them as they were given subcutaneously in the loose skin between the shoulder blades. As someone else said pulled up like a tent. They should not hurt at all. And yes, it should be the cobalamin, not any of the B combinations or they could sting, but not the cobalamin. The needle should be the right size also or they will feel it. We used 25 G single monoject. Worked like a charm.
Barb
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Hi Michaela,
I’m wondering now why the vet thinks it is an intramuscular injection when your dogs aren’t having any issues with they injections
I’ll definitely ask if she can give it subcutaneous from now on.
I’m wondering now why the vet thinks it is an intramuscular injection when your dogs aren’t having any issues with they injections
I’ll definitely ask if she can give it subcutaneous from now on.
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Yes, they shouldn't hurt at all. I would not have been able to give the injections to Kolby all those years if he reacted in pain.
Barb
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Hi Tara---
Welcome from Florida. I admit I just skimmed through your post, so I don't know whether this was mentioned---
Toby needs to eat 150% the amount of food that is recommended for his IDEAL weight, broken up into 3-4 meals & enzymed accordingly.
Apologies if this is repetitive.
---Pam
Welcome from Florida. I admit I just skimmed through your post, so I don't know whether this was mentioned---
Toby needs to eat 150% the amount of food that is recommended for his IDEAL weight, broken up into 3-4 meals & enzymed accordingly.
Apologies if this is repetitive.
---Pam
Tucker was a shepherd mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Diane's Enzymes 4 t/day, B12 1 capsule/day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/day. Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 4 c/day. 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma Nov. 2023. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
Now there's Nina. 5 year old GSD. TLI 1.0 B12 323. We are still tweaking her routine, and getting lots of help from the forum. She is klutzy and goofy, and we love her dearly, too.
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Tara wrote: ↑05 Aug 2022, 13:18 Hi everyone, I’m Tara and my dog recently diagnosed with EPI is Toby. He’s a cavalier King Charles spaniel, 10 years old (11 at the end of the month) and we live in the UK.
Toby’s currently having weekly injections of B12 - 4 left out of a course of 6 of which he’s hating as it’s apparently an injection into the muscle… of which he doesn’t have
He’s also on Lypex. Vet said 1 a day but since talking to the lovely oracle known as Jean we are now increasing it to 1 capsule per meal. He’s having four meals a day. He’s on Arden Grange sensitive white fish and potato wet food which has been a life saver as he was diagnosed with Inflammatory Bowel Disease back in November and this food set his poops back too normal. One thing I forget to mention to Jean is that Toby also has a heart murmur of which he’s on Vetmedin for.
Is anyone else’s pup on heart medication? It’s just dawned on me whether or not that’s being processed by his body properly?! I know it’s processed by the liver but I didn’t think about EPI and whether that would have an effect on the tablet.
The questions I had for the forum have been answered by Jean so I thought I’d just introduce ourselves and give you Toby’s history.
I think compared too many we’ve been fortunate with Toby. As we’d stabilised his poops before his EPI diagnosis we didn’t know and you wouldn’t know there was anything wrong with him. He’s fine in himself, loves his food, loves his walks (that’s he doesn’t have any more due to no meat on his bones ) He’s only experienced dramatic weight loss. He’s gone from >10kg to 8.7kg in 5 months.
I guess because of his IBD he doesn’t get any treats other than the foods he’d had since being diagnosed with IBD so at the moment nothing is giving him diarrhoea or upsetting him.
The reason we requested a blood test was to see why he was loosing weight even though we’d found a food that was working and that’s when the vet said he had EPI. We thought diabetes or thyroid problem…didn’t know about EPI.
So far we’re 18 days into the tablets and injections. No changes yet but that’s because we don’t think his enzymes dosage is correct but fingers crossed now we’re increasing it we might see a bit of change.
Sorry to go on Just to remind you of the one question I could do with help on is the heart medication and EPI.
Thanks for reading.
Tara & Toby xx
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Hi all , I am new here and learning a lot from this community, glad to be here.
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I’m impressed with the commentary on the blood test. It’s written in layman’s plain. English with recommendations in keeping with current treatment. There are highs and lows, but when digestion improves they will change. It really gives any vet good advice.
I hope the heart meds help.
I hope the heart meds help.
Springer spaniel Marti had Epi, PLE , MMM just to confuse me. She lived till 12yrs, chubby and happy despite eight years of epi.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.
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