Testing with a photo , to cheer people up.

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Patsy
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Testing with a photo , to cheer people up.

Post by Patsy » 06 Oct 2018, 15:26

I’m trying out putting on photos, so this is for entertainment only.
This was Marti, at about 6yrs old, two years after everything went haywire with Epi and PLE, and she dropped to 17kg,close to death. She lived to 12yrs.
I hope this gives hope to new members !

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Springer spaniel Marti had Epi, PLE , MMM just to confuse me. She lived till 12yrs, chubby and happy despite eight years of epi.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.

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Post by Jean » 06 Oct 2018, 15:33

thank you Pats

J
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

I am the Forum Director which I am very proud of

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


Jeanx

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Post by ed33935 » 06 Oct 2018, 17:52

Patsy wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 15:26 I’m trying out putting on photos, so this is for entertainment only.
This was Marti, at about 6yrs old, two years after everything went haywire with Epi and PLE, and she dropped to 17kg,close to death. She lived to 12yrs.
I hope this gives hope to new members !

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Thank you so much for that, after a tough day I needed that. I wish I could ask you some questions about giving the enzymes in capsules. Our little Lizze seems to be struggling eating the food mixed with the enzymes.

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Re: Testing with a photo , to cheer people up.

Post by Patsy » 06 Oct 2018, 19:06

In the US you can get Creon capsules. Not cheap. I’ve no experience of it, being in the UK. Do another post to ask other people about it. You can do a Search, and I believe it is described under the Enzyme section..
The key to EPI is patience, they heal internal weakening first, then muscle, before you get any fat. Some like Marti been so ill that they develop other autoimmune conditions, . If you keep a log of what you feed and dose, and corresponding daily notes of poop, ,energy, appetite, you will see the subtle changes.
If the poop gets more formed, that’s proof that digestion is happening. Some folks use a smear of cat food to trick the fuss pots, I used to spend an hour hand feeding Marti using tricks. Spaniels have very sensitive noses!
I still remember the days of mopping up floods of urine and poo in the middle of the night, days after major surgery, propping myself up on the mop. Everyone on here has a heart wrenching story to tell, so keep talking to us when you’re desperate.
Springer spaniel Marti had Epi, PLE , MMM just to confuse me. She lived till 12yrs, chubby and happy despite eight years of epi.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.

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Post by Barb » 07 Oct 2018, 09:24

Thank you, Patsy. What a beautiful picture of Marti!

We never know what challenges our pups are going to bring us.

Thank you for sharing that beautiful photo.

Barb

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Post by jilbert57 » 07 Oct 2018, 10:18

Patsy, thanks for the picture of Marti. What a handsome boy.
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

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Post by Kodis Mom » 07 Oct 2018, 11:45

Great picture and story Patsy. Hope it will encourage new people on this crazy EPI journey.
Kodi
B. 8/19/2010 Diagnosed at 11 months.
Kodi is now on Natures Logic turkey and/or pork kibble, 2 cups with 2 teaspoons of enzymes, 1/8 teaspoon of ground coriander, 1/16 teaspoon of cinnamon and ground fennel seed (for tummy upsets) twice a day, plus one one B12 capsule from Wonderlabs. She has been very stable and on occasion needs a dose ofTylan.
She is our second GSD with EPI. It was not so scary this time ! And thank goodness for epi4dogs.com ! 💝 Kodi passed on August 25, 2023 just after her 13th birthday.💝 Forever grateful to Olesia and epi4dogs. She live a long and adventurous life with EPI.

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Post by Madelon » 07 Oct 2018, 16:32

I think this is the first picture I've seen of your Marti - what a handsome boy. Thank you for giving encouragement to our new and old members.
Madelon, owned by DOC. DOC dx EPI 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24. DOC taught me so much and together we battled and overcame EPI, food sensitivies, environmental allergies but we lost the cancer battle. DOC was dx with hemangiosarcoma 5/2022 and crossed the rainbow bridge July 24, 2022. He is and always will be the love of my life, my soulmate, my heart dog.

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Post by Olesia711 » 07 Oct 2018, 18:40

Hi Patsy... WOW!!! Marti looked FABULOUS... and what a great encouragement for those just embarking on this EPI journey to see how great Marti looked 2 years AFTER being diagnosed with EPI+++.......

And you also captured what it takes to handle EPI ... "Patience" :)

It sure takes patience to discover what the right balance of the recommended protocol is, but my goodness, once you find the right balance for that individual EPI dog... the recovery is amazing- -well worth the wait/patience! And so many can attest to the fact that once the right balance is found, many of these dogs need to be placed on diets... such a lovely problem to have with and EPI dog, eh?!
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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