Epi4Dogs Foundation Inc.’s mission is the advancement of science and education relating to EPI (Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency), yielding useful insights and positive outcomes in better managing EPI in dogs and cats. Our goals are to support and/or collaborate with veterinary EPI research and researchers, and to promote EPI awareness by educating the general public, pet owners, pet organizations, rescue and shelter organizations, veterinary schools and veterinarians.
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Post by TankTank » 03 Jul 2020, 11:08

Hey guys

Was reading a few months ago about needing more enzymes as the dog ages. Well we opened a new bag of 8x diane enzymes and noticed poop went south, was slushy. Was like that for a month. Tried slip elm, doubled his probiotic nothing worked. Tank did not lose weight but his coat was dry was itching alot.

For 8x we use 3/4 teaspoon per cup food. So we started gradual increase increments. This took another month. We hit 1 teaspoon per cup and poop was back to being normal.

We we just opened another 1kg 8x diane enzymes and poop is still good. He is the catch, we dropped enzymes back to 3/4.

Question is it possible a 6x was mislabeled to 8x. Or can the amounts of enzymes fluctuate that much bag to bag.


Tank GSD Born jul 22 16, diag EPI 22 months, TLI 06/08/18 b12 181,folate 22 TLI <1, TLI 08/15/18 b12 423 folate 12 TLI <1.0, Acana Lamb 2c 1c 2c mixed with 4 2 4 ounces fresh beef pancreas,liquified and mixed room temp, 6 hours, fortiflana probiotic, monthly b12 8cc, highest weight 93lbs(too chunky)lowest 73, current 82. Hate this disease.

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Re: Enzymes

Post by D Sloan » 03 Jul 2020, 13:07

The actual analysis numbers are on each package so you can keep track. I had one batch that I had to increase for Sarge and then we went back to normal and did not increase again. Yes they can fluctuate a bit that they would make a difference but most never notice. We have been tagging the packages that are stronger with about how much stronger they are than we normally see so you have an idea of how much to decrease. Some as much as 25%.. Sometimes they will need a few weeks of adjustment then you can go back down. It will depend on the dog.

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Re: Enzymes

Post by Olesia711 » 03 Jul 2020, 14:26

thanks Diane for explaining that :)
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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