New EPI diagnosis

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Olesia711
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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by Olesia711 » 08 Jun 2021, 23:30

Hi Nicole,

Ys... since Cali is a wee little thing of approx 12 lbs... give her just 1/2 capsule a day. You can open the capsule up and just sprinkle and mix in her food (as long as there is some wet food in her food) :)
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by CaliGirl » 08 Jun 2021, 23:54

Ok great, thank you. And the trazadone? Is it safe for her to have, as far as it won’t screw anything up with Epi or diabetes?

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Jean
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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by Jean » 09 Jun 2021, 05:27

Good morning from the UK

she is wee thats for sure

I will ask Olesia for you about Trazadone, I have no idea and it doesnt say anything helpful anywhere, but it will only be short lived during the flight I assume
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

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My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by Olesia711 » 09 Jun 2021, 07:48

Yes, Trazadone is safe for dogs.....(and people).... and it is fine to give to a dog with EPI.

it supposedly will calm them down. However i looked up some adverse affect and will post here... simply because my doctor also prescribed Trazadone for me personally (i have trouble sleeping) and it made me queasy to my stomach.... i didn't like taking it for myself.

SOOoooo... here is a short vet article on it....
https://todaysveterinarynurse.com/artic ... -medicine/

If it make you nervous to give a chemical drug though, maybe ask your vet about giving something like BACH "Rescue Remedy" for dogs, or
an herbal tincture (this is what i did ) made of either Valerian or Passion Flower or sometimes you can find a mixture of both used together....
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by jilbert57 » 09 Jun 2021, 08:55

Hi Nicole, just wanted to say that both Kiya and TJ use/used Trazadone when we are on the boat. If we are going to have a particularly rough crossing over a bodY of water I will give TJ one 50mg tab (he is 20lbs)at least an hour before with food. It settles him down and he is more mellow. Any chance you can try it before hand when you can observe before you are in the plane situation? Ask your vet. Probably around 25mgs.
Keep us up to date.

Jill
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by Olesia711 » 09 Jun 2021, 10:55

thanks Jill for helpng with this with actual experience giving it to your dogs.... i only took it myself and was not impressed.............. but know it is safe for dogs.
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by CaliGirl » 09 Jun 2021, 10:59

Thank you all so much! Really appreciate all your input and advice! :)

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 09 Jun 2021, 18:31

I second Rescue Remedy! As long as I am home when the thunder or fireworks begin, or if I am sure it will probably start within a couple of hours after I've left, I just squirt some on his tongue and it really, really helps. It does wear off, though, probably faster than a prescription drug.
Tucker was a shepherd/lab mix--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Took Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, and Tylan 1/16 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 1 1/2 cups/day, with a total of 4 cups of Fresh Pet. Stopped eating everything in sight, and went from 60 to 85 pounds! Tucker was my boyfriend, and my husband was OK with that. Tucker succumbed to hemangiosarcoma, but we cherished every day we had with that wonderful, beautiful boy. I will always, always miss my sweet big boy.

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by CaliGirl » 21 Jul 2021, 12:10

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is doing great! We are in the middle of a move so the last few months have been hectic.
Cali has been doing great. We took a trip back home to my home town and she had the time of her life.
She has been having solid poops, and things are going great with her EPI AND DIABETES management. I do have to bring her in for another curve to double check we are still in the right track with her insulin dosage, but am waiting til we actually move and get settled. (I hate pricking her at home)
I do have a question about her recent changes to acid reflux. She has been doing it more. She doesn’t actually throw up. But regurgitates more frequently then swallowing it. She is currently taking Prilosec. But it doesn’t seem to be working. (This is along with the slip elm) I wondered if generic Pepcid would be better for her? I do have a box of 20mg on hand, I don’t think she needs that much, but maybe half a pill? I’m not sure? Ideally I would like to get away from any medicines at all. I would like to be able to calm with something else if it works. This seems to be the only problem we are having right now, but I feel bad for her, I don’t imagine that can be comfortable.
Let me know if anyone has any ideas?
Thank you!

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Re: New EPI diagnosis

Post by jilbert57 » 21 Jul 2021, 12:20

Good morning! Nice to hear things are going well.
Is Cali on a probiotic? Maybe the slippery elm and a probiotic will help. It sounds maybe like SID? If you have any Tylan you might consider a course.
Are you supplementing B12?

Jill
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

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