My dog limp after dinner

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:30

Jean wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 05:55 that is something I have never come accross, is the belly swolen ?

vets ASAP

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I'm sorry to take so long to reply. There are many things in my family recently.
I consulted the veterinarian, blood test is normal, beans into the hyperbaric oxygen chamber, but still shortness of breath. Through the B-ultrasound test, the doctor felt that there was something wrong with his heart.
After returning home, through the experiment, I found that the temperature greatly affected his breathing. The outdoor temperature here is 33 ℃, and the indoor air conditioner is on, which is generally 24 ℃. I'm thinking, maybe he's overheating after dinner, and stomach pressure.
I'm trying to reduce the amount of food I feed now, and after that, he's not burping anymore. Before often burping after meals, maybe there is flatulence.

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:34

Tuckaboo Pam wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 07:11 In keeping with my usual responses, I will go outside the box. Is there anything about his posture while he eats, that could be causing him to cramp? Or does he eats too quickly? I think I might try placing his bowl a little higher, or putting his food in a maze feeder.

Just a thought! --- Pam
His eating speed is a little fast. Now I will divide it into many spoons and give it to him a little to slow down. When he eats, his body will be taut. It seems that his posture is a little stiff. Until he finishes eating, his body will relax.
The good news is that after I tried some joint products, now he doesn't limp.
I don't know whether it's a joint problem or a stomach problem.
I'm trying.

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:38

Jean wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 08:21 GOOD THOUGHT PAM

My only worry is bloat , please visit the vet
I watched some videos about GDV and felt very scared. I'm also very worried about inflation.
After careful observation, it was found that his abdomen was not particularly swollen, but he must have flatulence, because he would burp after eating. I cut down on food a little, and used probiotics and sucralfate, and slippery elm skin.
Now, he doesn't burp any more, but he still has shortness of breath after eating, but I feel that his expression and mental state are not very uncomfortable.

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:41

Olesia711 wrote: 27 Jun 2021, 10:45 it sounds like pain and sounds lilke pain from eating... and then that begs the question WHY would eating cause pain.

My first suggestion is to have the vet check her over.... it is possible, like others have suggested, pancreatitis....or, it could be bloat- -which could be very dangerous and you really want a vet to diagnose this .... but then you will also need to figure out what is triggering this. Or it could be so many other gastrointestinal conditions. Or it could be an ingredient in the food or a particular supplement/ additive that you are giving her, trying to help but for some reason it is NOT agreeing with her and causing pain.

Sorry we don't have a definite answer except for recommendation that something like this should really be seen by a vet.

For example, years ago, my older dog would cramp up after eating... and at first i was convinced he had pancreatits (he did that play bow position with his stomach), but he didn't have it. Then my vet was convinced he had EPI, we tested him, he didn't have that either.... it turned out he had A-Typical Cushings.. once we got the right diagnosis... and got him on the right medicine, within 1 week he was dramatically better. Sometimes it's a long journey to find out what the problem really is.......................

Please keep us posted

I used joint products, and heart maintenance products, while controlling the weight of food.
Now he doesn't limp, he doesn't burp. But after the meal there was still some shortness of breath.
I will continue to look for the root causes of the problems and try to solve them.

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:42

Barb wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 09:56 I agree with the advice to get her to your vet to be checked out for all the suggested reasons. Our Kolby developed Bloat very suddenly and we only had a limited time to get him to surgery to correct the twisting of his stomach. However, some dogs have gradual gas build up with bloat which has to be removed.

If it is not bloat, but one of the other suggested conditions, or a new one, she should still be seen to see what is causing her discomfort after eating.

Let us know.

Barb
Thank you! I'm trying to solve it
GDV is really a very dangerous situation. I watched some GDV videos and it was terrible. I'm glad your Kolby was treated in time.
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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:42

Madelon wrote: 29 Jun 2021, 20:31 Sending prayers - I've not heard of anything like this but I too would recommend a vet visit. Please let us know.
Thank you! I'm trying to solve it

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 09 Jul 2021, 00:52

Jean wrote: 28 Jun 2021, 11:14 i had thought of Cushings too
Because he did not show the external symptoms of Cushing's disease, the doctor did not test him for Cushing's disease this time.
He didn't lose his hair, his abdomen didn't get huge and soft, he didn't gain weight (I've been trying to gain his weight, but it didn't work), he didn't gain water and urination.
It doesn't look like Cushing's disease. He doesn't have any typical symptoms except shortness of breath.

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by Jean » 09 Jul 2021, 04:32

let us know
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

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My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

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We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by Olesia711 » 09 Jul 2021, 12:06

Hi Alex,

Glad to read that he no longer limps or burps. You certainly are trying to figure out what is the root cause..... your vet might be right, it could be something with the heart, or it could be something else. If this is not caused by a heart condition, another possibility might be an allergic reaction to a certain food ingredient that he is having when eating? When the body stiffens..... is there anyway that this "might" be some kind of seizure?

WHen the dog's body stiffens.... if your cell phone can take videos... maybe take a video of what happens when he eats while it is actually happening and then show the video to your vet. It might be more helpful for your vet to see what actually happens................ there is such a thing called "idiopathic seizures" that can happen to dog and one of the situations is when it they are eating....
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32343869/

Alex, i really don't know if any of this is helpful or even a possibility....., i just feel real bad for you, i know how difficult it is when you know something is wrong with your dog and no one can figure out what the problem is.................
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: My dog limp after dinner

Post by alex » 10 Jul 2021, 13:28

Olesia711 wrote: 09 Jul 2021, 12:06 Hi Alex,

Glad to read that he no longer limps or burps. You certainly are trying to figure out what is the root cause..... your vet might be right, it could be something with the heart, or it could be something else. If this is not caused by a heart condition, another possibility might be an allergic reaction to a certain food ingredient that he is having when eating? When the body stiffens..... is there anyway that this "might" be some kind of seizure?

WHen the dog's body stiffens.... if your cell phone can take videos... maybe take a video of what happens when he eats while it is actually happening and then show the video to your vet. It might be more helpful for your vet to see what actually happens................ there is such a thing called "idiopathic seizures" that can happen to dog and one of the situations is when it they are eating....
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32343869/

Alex, i really don't know if any of this is helpful or even a possibility....., i just feel real bad for you, i know how difficult it is when you know something is wrong with your dog and no one can figure out what the problem is.................
I really appreciate your help and everyone's help. Patiently help me analyze the problem and try to find the root of the problem. The veterinarian didn't mention epilepsy. I'll ask him about epilepsy. Maybe there are some mistakes in my description. After all, my English is not good.
When beans eat, their bodies are not as stiff as stones, or their muscles are stiff. He looks a little nervous, but he seems to be getting better in recent days. I don't know if it has something to do with his joints.

Just yesterday, I finally received the Thomas bio case plus I bought earlier. I was just about to stop lypex and start using bio case.
But through the study in the forum, I found that many people recommend using Enzyme Diane, because its purity is better, I feel very anxious. I can't buy Enzyme Diane where I am, and customs is also a problem. Read some articles, bio case is not very good, sad. At present, I can only buy bio case plus and lypex.🥲

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