Epi4Dogs

Hi, I'm new here.
My dog Bow (Great Dane) does not have an diagnosis of EPI but our vet is treating her as if she does. She matches all the symptoms etc... we have managed to gain 20kg, with Lypex and a tinned dog food called Chappie. She is now back up to 48kg (still small for a dane though) and her poos are 9/10 normal. We have even been able to introduce some treats with good effect.
The only difficulty is that she requires 2.5kg of this a day and she is not gaining any further weight. She does not need to gain much more, but around 5kg would be great. Recently we couldn't source any chappie and had to give her some dry good which she loved (and for cleaning/recycling reasons this would be so much handier)

She gets 2 capsules of lypex daily, one sprinkled over each meal. But the cost of everything is massive.
Is there a cheaper alternative that works just as well, same with dried food - I have sourced this brand called Akeela which seems to suit your forums food requirements and I was just looking for any other adivce.

Thanks,

Jo

BTW i am from Northern Ireland

We use Pan-tenex, I'm in the U.S. but it's available in your country also. https://www.pantenexdogenzymes.com/prod ... ed-kingdom

another one you can try is EnzymeDiane
https://enzymediane.com/
... many of us have used her enzymes for years and years without any issues and at a great cost reduction, along with the fact that you can talk to her directly anytime.
Feel free to call or email Diane directly to find out if customs will hold up the enzymes if you purchase from her.

Thank you so much I'll follow this up!!

keep us posted!!!!!!!! Diane is very nice to work with.

welcome from Liverpool UK

as you are in Northern Ireland you could try Chemeyes

https://www.chemeyes.co.uk/product/high ... -powder-2/

they also do b12 cpsules

we used Panzym which a great no of people in UK use

https://www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-supplements ... wder-p-501

I used it for 7 years with no problems, Lypex is really expensive

do you have a company called Pets at Home over there ?

Hello Jo, I’m in Yorkshire and lived with epi for 8 years.
Tinned Chappie saved my dogs life, though after she regained full weight , she reacted to the chicken and the rice. Then I changed to a succession of dry foods, mostly ending up donated to a dog rescue. Then I stuck to Millie’s Wolfheart or Eden. Both online in UK.
I too was bothered by the price of Lypex. She couldn’t tolerate powdered Panzym. I used Chemeyes capsules as suggested by Jean, and the capsules are fed whole, not sprinkled. We had 2 per meal. You are lucky if your Great Dane is good on a lower dose than diagnosed epi dogs. Why hasn’t the vet given her a Tli blood test to establish her levels? Then you could be sure whether you need to set a regime in place. Jean mentioned the B12 tablets from Chemeyes. (I’ve actually used them on myself successfully,don’t tell my gp). Epi dogs can’t absorb it, but other gut conditions like Crohns , IBD need lifetime supplementation too. It must have intrinsic factor in it. B12 deficiency is insidious, and causes a subtle loss of health , and brain fog. So it is very likely that Bow would benefit from it, and no harm comes from high levels.
Most vets have no practical experience of epi, so they find it difficult, because as we on the forum know, no two dogs are the same with it.
Do let us know how you get on. There are quite a few other UK. members , but I think our management of the condition has improved over the years, and they don’t log on so much! Certainly the amount of information collated by Olesia has educated owners and vets alike.