Epi4Dogs

I just came back from the vet for Jaspers biweekly B12 shot. he said I can just start giving him daily b12 supplements that you buy in the grocery store. 2500mcg/d. what is the thought on this? Im glad to save the money but was a little bewildered at this advice.

By the way, his appetite has returned in the last week. he lost about 2# during the past month when he kind of quit eating . his poops are pretty good. giving him tylan each meal

It's good to hear that his appetite is better! In theory, any B12 supplement should work, however, there is something called intrinsic factor which is necessary to be able to absorb the B12. Some of our EPI dogs have sufficient intrinsic factor to absorb any B12, but many of our EPI dogs do not, so they won't benefit from just any B12 supplement. (It's not necessary for a shot, only for supplements going through the digestive system.). Unfortunately, we have no idea which dogs have enough intrinsic factor and which do not, and I don't know of a test for it. Fortunately, there are a couple B12 supplements that have intrinsic factor added to it, and they work very well for our EPI dogs. These are the supplements that we recommend. I use Wonderlabs PetFactor B12. Here is information from our B12 page:
"In the USA, Wonderlabs Pet Factor B12 https://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=K9688 or Wonderlabs Trinfac B https://www.wonderlabs.com/itemleft.php?itemnum=6881 are products widely used (with great success supported by before and after Cobalamin blood tests) in many EPI pets with low B12. If you are in the UK, you can purchase B12 with Intrinsic Factor from Chemeyes, LLC. http://www.chemeyes.co.uk/ If upon initial EPI diagnosis, your dog has insufficient B12 levels."

I second Wonderlabs Intrinsic Factor!

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You can also order direct from the company, with a discount for EPI4Dogs, I believe.

They work great.---Pam

the directions for the wonderlabs b12 says to open up the capsule and sprinkle on food. are you doing this at the same time you are applying the enzymes, meaning wonderlabs b12 gets all mixed in with the moist food?-( how else could you do this with a EPI diet? )

or do you just give your dog the pill as is separate from the food?

I have two unopened bottles of the Wonderlabs B12 pills if you would like them.

Tony, I just give him the capsule, mixed in with his food. I figure it dissolves in his belly. But, yes, you can give it at the same time. ---P

we dont use Wonderlabs as the cost of import to UK is ridiculous but we use something similar you need the Intrinsic factor, I strongly advise you to use them, we gave 1 daily mixed in with the food without the capsule itself But as long as they get it I dont see how is important , Kara would swallow the capsule whole, she was a dream with tablets

https://www.petmd.com/dog/wellness/evr_ ... py_for_epi

it seems to help their mental state too

j

Just seconding that we use the WonderLabs B12 pills (cheap and quick shipping in the U.S.) and mix the whole capsule in with Rosie's food right before we serve it. She doesn't have any problem gobbling down the capsule. But if your dog has an aversion to the whole pill in the food, the capsules are easy to pop open and sprinkle over before serving.

I agree with all in favor of Wonderlabs pet factor B12. We gave it to Kolby for years and had excellent results. He was one of those rare dogs who opened his mouth for me to put the pill in. What a love! But many people open the capsule and sprinkle.

Barb

We give Piper B12 pills daily as well. However I never heard of the produxt you are mentioning, How would I know if I should be using it?