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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by Barb » 09 Oct 2018, 15:37

Yes, you can tent the skin for the B12 shots. I gave Kolby injections for a long time when he was first diagnosed and we did it this way. Just pull up the skin between the should blades and inject there. In addition to having the correct B12, make sure you have the right sized needle. If you do, she should not feel a thing. Believe me, Kolby reacts to everything and he did not react a bit. I just had my husband hold him on leash so he wouldn't walk away.....

Congratulations on the weight gain!!! Woohooo!

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by Olesia711 » 09 Oct 2018, 23:35

Thanks Barb for confirming that.....-i know i do it for insulin but wasn't sure if you could do it for B12 too.

..... if it wasn't for being able to tent the skin..... i am not so sure i would be able to give Izzy her insulin shots.... i am just a real weenie about needles and pain................
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by ed7385 » 15 Oct 2018, 08:50

Just to report back, I finally got that B12 shot done! Had my son help me so I would stop wussing out everytime she winced. LOL

I've done a few injections before, tenting at the scruff at the neck, I must have been going deeper than I needed to or something. Because I finally got it where she was fine with it.
Roxanne, foster dog extraordinaire, GSD/malinois mix (Lord help me with the high energy)
Diagnosed 6/18, new to foster home 9/18 and let the treatment begin
PancreaPowder Plus 2tsp, 3x/day mixed with 2 cups Victor, weekly b12 injections, metronidazole

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by Barb » 15 Oct 2018, 11:59

Great! Once you do it a few times and there is no pain and no reaction, you get comfortable. We always gave Kolby his ball right after.....he connected the two right away, so as soon as the injection was over, he would run and get the ball.

And Olesia, I'm with you. If I wasn't able to tent the skin, I probably couldn't do it. But when I had watched the vet do it, I noticed that Kolby did not even pay any attention to it.....which meant he wasn't feeling anything. In fact, everyone laughed at the vet's office the first time he got the injection because while the needle was going in, he was poking his nose in one of the open drawers trying to see what was in there, completely oblivious to the needle........so I thought, I can do this. Of course, doing it the first time was very nerve wracking. It took me quite a while to work up my courage. So congratulations! "What we do for love!"

And just for the record, hubby couldn't even look when I was giving the injection!

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by Olesia711 » 16 Oct 2018, 11:11

Congrats on giving the shot..... being able to "tent the skin" is a real weenie saver :D .....

Barb... love the story about Kolby poking his nose in drawers while getting the initial shot... i bet you were standing nearby ready to freak out....oddly enough.... even thou i can give the insulin shots to Izzy by tenting the skin, when we go to the vets... if they have to give them a shot or draw blood- -i still have to turn my head/can't look............................. :cry:
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by Riley's Mom » 29 Oct 2018, 15:46

Olesia, my vet taught me how to give the B12 shot and that is exactly how he instructed me to do it. Make a "tent" with the scruff skin and inject there. My girl didn't seem to be too bothered by it, but I have since switched to oral Wonderlabs B12 with intrinsic factor. The pills seem to keep her on more of an even keel.
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Riley is a 10 year old Labradoodle. She was diagnosed with EPI in 2014.
She currently eats Taste of the Wild, I cup in the morning, 2 cups in the evening, each meal with 1 Wonderlabs B12 sprinkled over her dinner. Enzymes are EnzymeDiane, 1 tsp per cup of food, mixed in home made bone broth. No other supplements or meds at this time.
Riley currently weighs about 44 pounds, which is pretty heavy for her.

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by ginola » 10 Jun 2019, 16:22

Hello, good idea for the B12 shot ! Should we do it each year for our dogs with epi ?

I'm very curious about CBD effect on my dog, I already use cbd oil 3% for my daily routine and was wondering if i could simply put some drops in the food i give to my dog ?

I saw that there are specific CBD foods for dog but is there a big difference between those both products ? i seems like cbd works for all mammals ...

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by jilbert57 » 10 Jun 2019, 20:04

I use capsules consistently every night for great, relaxing sleep. I have drops and cbd biscuits I use for anxiety in the small dog works very well. About half hour till I see a difference.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

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Re: New, sorting it out, curious about CBD oil

Post by Bpcooper14 » 12 Jun 2019, 20:24

Ace is at the point where he doesn't even stop eating when I tent the scruff to give him his insulin. He may pause of I'm taking too long to give him the shot but otherwise is oblivious.
Hi all, I'm Bill. Ace was diagnosed with EPI on 5/31/18. In January, 2018 he was at the vet for routine check-up and weighed in at 34 lbs. In May after fighting with weeks of poor poo, he weighed 24.6 lbs. On Saturday July 28th, Ace was diagnosed as diabetic.
2 meals per day. He receives 6 units Vetsulin injections twice daily with each meal.
1 cup Victor Multi pro with 1/2 cup ground chicken breast, 1/4 cup sweet potato, 1/4 fat free cottage cheese. 1/2 tsp Pantenex enzymes, incubated 20-30 minutes.

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