Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

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Pialovesyoga
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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Pialovesyoga » 21 Nov 2022, 15:57

Yes, back to lean ground turkey, sweet potatoes/pumpkin 1/4sp enzymes (this seems like the best dosage so far) slippery elm, probiotics- bland diet as long as it takes..
Meanwhile looking for a new vet (holistic), because our current vet says she is not a specialist and she cannot help anymore. She is referring us to another vet.

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Chance » 21 Nov 2022, 18:32

Maybe seeing a specialist is best. Your vet could probably get someone in for an ultrasound. But the specialist would have more experience with these cases.

Sorry it's not what you hoped for. And good luck finding the magic formula:/ keep us posted!!

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Pialovesyoga » 22 Nov 2022, 11:39

Thank you. Since for whatever reason the enzymes are helping, I am not ruling out EPI yet. Perhaps I’ll request another test in a few weeks. Even though I’ve got an appointment with specialist for the next month, I’m actually looking for a good holistic vet who is knowledgeable about nutrition to help us transition from bland diet to more sustainable varieties of homemade food.

He is certainly on the mend- at least I know what is working and what is not. I’m going to keep him on this magic formula without making zero changes for at least for a month or so until his system settles down and he gains all the weight he lost.

Here is another informational video of Dr. Becker on IBD:
https://youtu.be/v55lQ_HUrS8

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Chance » 22 Nov 2022, 12:35

A holistic vet is an excellent idea!! They can ve very helpful in guiding toward proper, balanced nutrition!

Yes, for now at least, enzymes are definitely required. At least until things get settled down. A month seems like a long time away; but okay if you have something that's working. Holistic vets, they usually aren't that hard to get into! I think it took less than a week. I remember I had to get my necessary vet records sent pretty quickly.

Bali's got an amazing mom that loves him very much. I commend you for that, as sadly there's not many willing to go that far. 💓

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 22 Nov 2022, 17:45

I'm not sure that score can be considered segueing into EPI, so I won't address it. BUT, Tucker was always skinny, and the vet said meh, but after he ate an apple pie & 13 cupcakes, he went south, fast.

Since he ended up positive for EPI, I assume he was segueing his entire life., which up to then was six years. I feel so guilty that he was running around hungry for all that time.

As soon as he got on enzymes, B12, and Tylan, he started gaining weight and his personal habits improved. All I can give you is what I have learned over the last 3 1/2 years on the forum, and to share my personal experience. EPI is a living, breathing condition, in that you have always got to be ready to do some re-tweaking.

My feeling is, if what you are doing is working, why change it, unless the enzymes are not called for. You can give them short term without doing harm.

When you change food, be sure & start slowly, mixing the two foods together, until you end up feeding just the new one.

I like Dr. Becker. She speaks extensively on diet in that first video.
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, two capsules slippery elm/evening, 1 Proviable capsule/day, and Tylan 1/32 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Taste of the Wild High Prairie, 4 cups/day, with a couple tablespoons of Fresh Pet mixed in, because everybody else gets some. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 95!!! pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Pialovesyoga » 23 Nov 2022, 10:59

Thank you Andrea! We are so lucky too, as they are teaching us a whole bunch.. I appreciate your support.

Bali is doing good, getting stronger, back on his beautiful playful spirit. Gaining weight as well. We are taking a day at a time and we shall see where we are in a month or so.

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Chance » 23 Nov 2022, 13:19

Awesome that he's feeling good! That's the main thing! Keep it up Bali!

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Pialovesyoga » 25 Nov 2022, 11:00

Good morning!

Bali is maintaining healthy poops, still a tad softer at the end, but that’s improving slowly.

This morning after a long walk he came home and vomited foamy bile.. I’m thinking maybe because he didn’t eat his usual 4th meal before sleep last night? This is only the 2nd time I have seen him vomiting since he was 10 weeks old puppy. The first one was when he was 7 months old, again after a night of not eating dinner. What would be the reason of this?

P.S.: He ate his breakfast with his usual appetite after vomiting though.

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by jilbert57 » 25 Nov 2022, 11:28

I would agree with you sounds like too long between snacks or meals. If he does not eat his last meal or snack before bed maybe feed him first thing in the morning before his walk.

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Re: Bali’s story: We need healing vibes and support

Post by Pialovesyoga » 25 Nov 2022, 12:17

Thank you, Jill.
I gave him a little snack (some sweet potatoes) when he demanded his last meal last night, but appears it was not enough.

I’ll make sure to feed him whenever he wants more food. He knows his feeding schedule better than I do, but I was so tired last night to cook for him, and since he ate his 3rd meal kinda late I thought it might be OK to skip the 4th. It wasn’t:)

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