I joined this forum in February shortly after adopting an EPI dog.
I can't thank you all enough for the information you provided- my vet is behind the times and not willing to update. Thanks to you, Flurry is stabilized on Enzyme Diane, with B12 and probiotics. Happily, she does not have the scary other problems that many of the dogs here have.
However, every 3 or 4 weeks, she urgently has to go out, usually at 3 AM. Once in the yard she frantically eats grass. She does NOT then throw up the grass, as my other dogs would have after this behavior. She will often drink a lot when she's back in the house.
She may throw up an hour to a couple of hours later. The vomit is brown and somewhat thick like thin chocolate milkshake, but smells like vomit. I can't see any grass or other particles, nor any mucus.
The following day, she will be quiet and will not eat until mid to late afternoon.
Does anyone know what this is? Is it related to EPI? Thanks very much for any suggestions!
brown vomit
Re: brown vomit
Sounds like possible acid reflux. Have you tried giving Slippery elm? I might try SE for a couple weeks and see if it helps at all. No burps or excess gas in between times?
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My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
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Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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My Eddie boi started doing something like this. We started giving slippery elm, or famotidine if if gets bad. I am not sure exactly what it is, but the slippery elm and famotidine help
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Nikki had similar issues for years. I wrote about it here: https://www.epi4dogs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7808#p7808
We made several visits to Texas A&M and they never really could find out what was wrong. When it was really bad, she wouldn't eat or drink. I would take her for some SubQ fluids and she would be better within an hour, so weird.
I ended up giving her 1-2 tablespoons of Slippery Elm syrup and within two weeks she was much better. Giving the SE in any other form didn't really make a difference.
https://oregonswildharvest.com/products/slippery-elm-bark-organic-powder
We made several visits to Texas A&M and they never really could find out what was wrong. When it was really bad, she wouldn't eat or drink. I would take her for some SubQ fluids and she would be better within an hour, so weird.
I ended up giving her 1-2 tablespoons of Slippery Elm syrup and within two weeks she was much better. Giving the SE in any other form didn't really make a difference.
https://oregonswildharvest.com/products/slippery-elm-bark-organic-powder
R.I.P. Nikki 11/21/2009 - 05/23/2023
Nikki was diagnosed with EPI in 2010
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Slippery Elm syrup for stomach issues
1 tsp Pan-Tenex enzymes with each meal
Weekly B12 shots, pills didn't work for her
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Re: brown vomit
ahhh... what you described happened to my Izzy.. and freaked me out..... i was used to SID/SIBO flare-ups... but this one time Izzy vomited brown stuff that looked like diarrhea and stunk really, really bad.... and she got very quiet for a time (i don't remember if it was for a day or more)..............
I took her to the vet and it turned out to be nothing more than SID... just different than what i normally saw as a SID flare up...the vet said probably a different strain of bad bacteria then what typically happens. .... i gave a short course of Tylan (if i remember correctly it was for something like 3 or 5 days only) and Slippery Elm and that took care of it. Never happened again.... but it did freak me out............
I took her to the vet and it turned out to be nothing more than SID... just different than what i normally saw as a SID flare up...the vet said probably a different strain of bad bacteria then what typically happens. .... i gave a short course of Tylan (if i remember correctly it was for something like 3 or 5 days only) and Slippery Elm and that took care of it. Never happened again.... but it did freak me out............
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Re: brown vomit
My Mary used to do this. Not the eating grass bit, because she's a house cat, but the brown vomit. Usually in the wee hours of the morning, right in front of the litter box. 1/4 Pepcid tablet sorted it out. Stomach acid.
Montgomery was born 20 March 2012. He eats extra lean ground chicken, lean ground pork and lean ground beef completed with Alnutrin and freeze-dried chicken liver, with hard-cooked egg. He gets two size zero capsules of Enzyme Diane's enzymes at each of his six meals, and a size four capsule of Tylan three times a day. He's a fierce little Spitfire with a roaring Merlin engine.
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My dog Bailey had acid reflux for years and could not get to the bottom of it no matter what we tried. He'd run out morning or midnight and vomit up white bile. He'd be licking and gulping air and burping. He was diagnosed with pancreatitis and IBD.
We were giving slippery elm, glutamine, marshmallow, licorice powders although these helped suppress the reflux but not cure the cause.
It wasn't until this forum that Eddie/Jeremy suggested Amoxycillin which we reluctantly did a 21 day course and i believe this is what fixed the acid reflux.
If that was the cause then Bailey may have some serious bad bacteria causing his gut issues. We did note from one biopsy that he helicobactor pyroli.
We were giving slippery elm, glutamine, marshmallow, licorice powders although these helped suppress the reflux but not cure the cause.
It wasn't until this forum that Eddie/Jeremy suggested Amoxycillin which we reluctantly did a 21 day course and i believe this is what fixed the acid reflux.
If that was the cause then Bailey may have some serious bad bacteria causing his gut issues. We did note from one biopsy that he helicobactor pyroli.
6yo Cavoodle with pancreatitis, IBD, SIBO, SID and allergic to most meat. Transitioning to Royal Canin Gastrointestinal wet canned food. Working heavilyto repair his microbiome in the hope it will fix his sensitivity to most meat.
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