Hi everyone,
My girl Cyan has been stable for almost two months now and all of a sudden she's having large volumes of stool again(only in the evening though). It's still formed, but has this weird greasy casing around it (almost like an uncooked sausage). It seems to have coincided with me starting her on a new batch of pantenex but I can't tell whether she needs a higher or lower dose or if it's something else entirely. I attempted to give her 1 tbsp instead of her normal 3/4 tbsp for the past couple meals but it doesn't seem to have resolved the issue. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
Stool Regression
Re: Stool Regression
What ratio of enzyme to kibble are you feeding? It should be 1 level teaspoon enzyme per 1 level cup kibble.
What food are you feeding and how much at each meal? Thanks
Jill
What food are you feeding and how much at each meal? Thanks
Jill
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Re: Stool Regression
I did have a very similar issue myself. Pantenex was like no help at all. I had ordered 4 jars. I'm in Canada, and quality guarantee for Canadians really sucks.
I did try ordering in a single jar after. Different lot #. But never did get much "stability on it again!
I did try ordering in a single jar after. Different lot #. But never did get much "stability on it again!
Chance was my 4 legged soul mate. My mobility assist service dog. Pure yellow Lab, 75 lbs. After struggling with weight all his life, finally dx with EPI. cTLI < 1, folate and B12 very low. Fed Raw. Maintained with Creon, Garden of Life probiotic and intermittent calcium bentonite clay. (Tylosin was a big nightmare for him)!
Rylee is Chance's successor; also pure Yellow/Fox red Lab. Started with symptoms at 8 weeks. At 6 months of age, also prescribed Creon due to suspected EPI (due to passing large amounts of undigested food). Currently suspected of blockages in pancreatic ducts. She is maintained VERY nicely on Creon and probiotics. Also raw fed.
Rylee is Chance's successor; also pure Yellow/Fox red Lab. Started with symptoms at 8 weeks. At 6 months of age, also prescribed Creon due to suspected EPI (due to passing large amounts of undigested food). Currently suspected of blockages in pancreatic ducts. She is maintained VERY nicely on Creon and probiotics. Also raw fed.
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She gets one cup of food per meal. I originally tried having her on 1 tbsp but it ended up being too much for her and made things worse. 3/4 tbsp was the sweet spot. She’s on Costco’s Nature Domain.
What did you end up doing when you realised Pantenex wasn’t working?
What did you end up doing when you realised Pantenex wasn’t working?
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Is there a reason for 1 Tablespoon of enzyme instead of 1 teaspoon?
Just curious. Thanks
Jill
Just curious. Thanks
Jill
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Re: Stool Regression
Too much enzyme is too much . Other factors that can produce the sausage skin jelly can be food related. Some of the natures domain recipes contain peas, which are high fibre a d upset many dogs. Then some of their ingredients are very high fat. Enzymes should deal with that , but large doses can cause irritation in the mouth and doubtless further down the guts. They are quite caustic. Better to use a food recommended by other forum members .
It’s difficult to get a balance in the first months and we have all been there !! It really helps to compare ideas, and keeps log of what you give him and what comes out the other end. Then you can eliminate reactions .
It’s difficult to get a balance in the first months and we have all been there !! It really helps to compare ideas, and keeps log of what you give him and what comes out the other end. Then you can eliminate reactions .
Springer spaniel Marti had Epi, PLE , MMM just to confuse me. She lived till 12yrs, chubby and happy despite eight years of epi.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.
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Oops, I meant teaspoon. She doesn’t get a tablespoon, that was a typo. I’ve been thinking of switching her to something else because I did notice the pea protein, despite seeing many others with epi pups using natures domain. I was thinking Crave or Taste of Wild?
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Thank you for the clarification on the enzyme amount.
Jill
Jill
My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 8 and Sadie is 2.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014
Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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