Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Epi4Dogs Foundation Inc.’s mission is the advancement of science and education relating to EPI (Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency), yielding useful insights and positive outcomes in better managing EPI in dogs and cats. Our goals are to support and/or collaborate with veterinary EPI research and researchers, and to promote EPI awareness by educating the general public, pet owners, pet organizations, rescue and shelter organizations, veterinary schools and veterinarians.
User avatar
Madelon
President
Posts: 463
Location: Nashville, TN
Country: United States
State: Tennessee
Dog name: Doc

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by Madelon » 17 Mar 2019, 11:38

Great suggestion Elisabeth
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

User avatar
kcblock1
Member
Posts: 13
Location: Cape Cod
Country: United States
State: Massachusetts
Dog name: Zack

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by kcblock1 » 05 Apr 2019, 13:03

Hello

Anyone have a dog that does not tolerate the Tylan. Zack gets a pinch twice a day but we are thinking that some of his spit ups are related to the Tylan. He also doesn’t go for his food if we put Tylan in it so we have been adding it to his homemade treats. Can’t say there is a direct relationship between a spit up and Tylan dose.

Also anyone notice a temporary loss of appetite after vaccines such as Lyme vaccine or kennel cough vaccine

Thanks
Kathy Crocker, Cape Cod, MA, USA, Zack is a 6 year old, 10 lb., Pomeranian dx on Nov 6,2018 with TLI of 2.5 after month of yellow cow patty stool. Lost one pound. Stool converted to normal immediately, main issue gastric reflux. Currently on Royal Canin wet food with bits of kibble, ProcreaPlusPowder, Tylan pinch 2xday, B12 injection monthly, weening off compounded Omeprazole. Also receives twice daily Phenobarbital for history of seizures.

User avatar
jilbert57
Staff
Posts: 392
Country: United States
State: Washington

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by jilbert57 » 05 Apr 2019, 13:14

I do know that the Tylan is very bitter. Some dogs do ok with it in their food but a lot of members put it in gel caps so the dog won't taste it. I did with Mickey.

I think the vaccinations could cause a temporary appetite issue(this has not happened to me) but if it lasts I would call the vet.

Maybe the cause is the Tylan in the food?
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

User avatar
Madelon
President
Posts: 463
Location: Nashville, TN
Country: United States
State: Tennessee
Dog name: Doc

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by Madelon » 07 Apr 2019, 18:26

As Jill said Tylan is bitter and a lot of dogs don't like it. You could put it in gel caps or put it in a dollop of cream cheese. Unfortunately vaccines can have ill side effects sometimes. If your dog never had a problem before then I would think it's the Tylan but as Jill suggested I would call the vet if it continues. I separate vaccines by a few weeks so that they are not given all at once - not sure if it makes a difference or not but makes me think it's easier on their system.
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

User avatar
pommymommy
Member
Posts: 8
Location: Southern California
Country: United States
State: California

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by pommymommy » 22 Apr 2019, 22:49

I used to work Romeo's dose of tylan in a tiny bit of pill pocket and wrap that bit inside another piece...worked wonders and he never knew what it was. It helps if you have a little treat to wash it down.
Suzy - Greatful for finding this forum and meeting such nice and helpful people.

Romeo, DOB 04/23/2004- healthy weight 11.1 pounds (I should say overweight); EPI weight 5.8 Pounds :(..Currently 7.2 :)

11/18/13 results: TLI: 1.3 (5-35), diagnostic for EPI. Folate 17.2 (6.5-11.5). (Consistent with small intestinal bacterial overgrowth or vitamin supplementation). Cobalamin 458 (249-733)

Pepcid AC, 2.5 mg as needed

Update 11/2/2016 started using Creon 10,000. Update 1/7/2017...the Creon is working. Gained almost a pound in one month! Keeping fingers crossed :)

User avatar
Jean
Staff
Posts: 471
Location: South Liverpool
Country: United Kingdom - England
Dog name: Kara

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by Jean » 23 Apr 2019, 16:21

Nice one
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules


Jeanx

User avatar
Madelon
President
Posts: 463
Location: Nashville, TN
Country: United States
State: Tennessee
Dog name: Doc

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by Madelon » 23 Apr 2019, 22:10

Great suggestion to use the pill pocket. You could also try a dollop of cream cheese.
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

User avatar
kcblock1
Member
Posts: 13
Location: Cape Cod
Country: United States
State: Massachusetts
Dog name: Zack

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by kcblock1 » 17 May 2019, 13:56

Hi. We stopped Zack’s Tylan over a month now and haven’t seen any adverse effects on his stool. He didn’t want it in his food, nor with pill pockets and he is too small for capsules. Weight stable. The only adverse event now is small spit ups, ie gastric reflex and big burps after he eats (he eats his wet food very fast). Spit ups aren’t daily and much less than earlier in his regime. Slippery elm had no effect when we tried it in early months of his treatment but wonder if it’s worth another try. We could try Tylan again, having it compounded but not sure that’s worth that expensive. He is so stable now I hate to upset the Apple cart. Any thoughts.
Kathy Crocker, Cape Cod, MA, USA, Zack is a 6 year old, 10 lb., Pomeranian dx on Nov 6,2018 with TLI of 2.5 after month of yellow cow patty stool. Lost one pound. Stool converted to normal immediately, main issue gastric reflux. Currently on Royal Canin wet food with bits of kibble, ProcreaPlusPowder, Tylan pinch 2xday, B12 injection monthly, weening off compounded Omeprazole. Also receives twice daily Phenobarbital for history of seizures.

User avatar
jilbert57
Staff
Posts: 392
Country: United States
State: Washington

Re: Seeking info re Pomeranians or small dog regime

Post by jilbert57 » 17 May 2019, 20:17

Some folks use Pepcid or Zantac for the burps or acid reflux. You might ask your vet about trying it.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 32 guests