Can enzymes cause snout sores?

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Can enzymes cause snout sores?

Post by AAAAHHHH » 13 May 2019, 01:44

Hi everyone, my dog was diagnosed in the beginning of this year, and she had reacted very well to enzyme supplements. We mix the enzyme powders with meat and wait for 30 minutes for each meal. Lately I noticed she started having these white small fissures on her snout, and I was wondering if these could be sores caused by the enzyme? I havnt noticed any sores in her mouth. Has anyone else had the same experience?

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Re: Can enzymes cause snout sores?

Post by Olesia711 » 13 May 2019, 17:03

hmmmmmmmmm... it's possible i guess, but i have not heard of the enzymes causing something like this....might want to ask the vet to look at these white pimples/sores and maybe test them ....

please let us know what the vet says.
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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Re: Can enzymes cause snout sores?

Post by Barb » 14 May 2019, 12:59

Yes, I agree with Olesia. Kolby got ulcers when he started the enzymes, but they were on his gums and were not what you described. Let us know what the vet says.

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Re: Can enzymes cause snout sores?

Post by jilbert57 » 14 May 2019, 14:49

Unrelated to enzymes I used a product Snout Saver on Mickey's dry crusty nose. Bag balm might work too.
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

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Re: Can enzymes cause snout sores?

Post by Olesia711 » 15 May 2019, 16:40

Oh wow thanks for sharing that information with us Jill... My Lulu (non-EPI dog) has developed a "crusty" nose on either side (she is a licker... licks EVERYthing!) i am going to try the Snout Saver
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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Re: Can enzymes cause snout sores?

Post by Patsy » 16 May 2019, 17:28

Marti got a dry cracked nose. I used Vaseline with aloe Vera flavour, which worked well. I have heard good reports of snoutsaver, but it costs considerably more!
Springer spaniel Marti had Epi, PLE , MMM just to confuse me. She lived till 12yrs, chubby and happy despite eight years of epi.
Capsule enzymes suited her best. B12 supplements made her into a new dog!
After a cocker with PLN kidney disease, I now have two healthy rescues, a lively, suicidal , small ginger terrier, adopted with pneumonia, and gum disease needing nearly all his teeth out, and a fluffy grey toy poodle/terrier from Greece.

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