Prebiotic

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Floramac
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Location: Telford shropshire
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Prebiotic

Post by Floramac » 14 May 2019, 04:58

Can anyone recommend a prebiotic in the UK. I believe it is time to try this for Kenzie considering how many people recommend it.
Kenzie diagnosed Sept 2015. Fed 3 times a day on Millies Wolfheart, Panzym enzymes 1 tsp per 130grams food, 1/8 tsp tylan twice a day 1 b12 per day. Also on
1 previcox a day for arthritis in paw.
Latest TLI is 5.5 Previous readings have been TLI - 3.4 and 4.2.
March 2018 poo went downhill and started suffering with very itchy skin. Changed enzymes to 3/4 tsp and upped Tylan 1/4 tsp. Had blood tests for allergies, many identified including lamb which was in her main food ( Millies Wolfheart countryside). New food, pork based, tried but not great.

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Miss Maddie Moo
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Re: Prebiotic

Post by Miss Maddie Moo » 15 May 2019, 03:41

Most of us use Slippery elm but it doesn't suit all dogs but you need it in a powder form.
Also i have used this >
https://www.petdrugsonline.co.uk/protex ... gL-TfD_BwE
Maddie DX April 2011 along with low B12 she was feed with a low fibre food below 3% , fat was not restricted ( she wasnt good on pea based foods ) She initially had a course of B12 shots weekly over a period of 6 months and then we used the B12 pills from Chemeyes in the UK . We used Panzym and slowly had to increase the dose as she aged when she was first DX she was 23kg but she gained weight quickly and got back to 33 kg .
Maddie gained her angel wings in Jan 2018 at the age of 10 to a condition unrelated to EPI.
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Floramac
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Re: Prebiotic

Post by Floramac » 15 May 2019, 09:22

Thanks for the link. I did try Slippery elm but it did not agree with her.
Kenzie diagnosed Sept 2015. Fed 3 times a day on Millies Wolfheart, Panzym enzymes 1 tsp per 130grams food, 1/8 tsp tylan twice a day 1 b12 per day. Also on
1 previcox a day for arthritis in paw.
Latest TLI is 5.5 Previous readings have been TLI - 3.4 and 4.2.
March 2018 poo went downhill and started suffering with very itchy skin. Changed enzymes to 3/4 tsp and upped Tylan 1/4 tsp. Had blood tests for allergies, many identified including lamb which was in her main food ( Millies Wolfheart countryside). New food, pork based, tried but not great.

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Dog name: Izzy

Re: Prebiotic

Post by Olesia711 » 15 May 2019, 16:33

since the slippery elm did not work well for Kenzie... exactly what is the issue? SID? Loose stools? If yes....
... talk to your vet about other prebiotics that they would recommend .... or..... ask your vet about trying some "RX clay"
https://www.vetrxdirect.com/product/vie ... -cats-otc

If you cannot get this product in the UK... ask your vet if they could recommend something similar.
Olesia, owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.3, Doing great 12+ years later! Once stable at 3+ months, was able to reduce enzymes to only 1/2 tsp of Enzymes (use EnzymeDiane's 6x) with each cup of food, but as she aged- -had to go back 1 tsp enzymes per cup of food. Fed various grain-free kibble+real meat, 6x pancreatin enzymes from EnzymeDiane., gave 1 tsp of coconut oil / fish oil daily .... until she developed Diabetes and she now cannot tolerate higher fat foods. Currently feed an 80% home-made diet of sweet potato, a lean meat/fish, 1/3 of a raw egg, fat free cottage cheese, fish oil+vitamins and bone meal with 20% Annamaet Lean & Grain Free kibble. This combo has regulated her Diabetes (takes Vetsulin) and EPI and is very well managed. In Feb 2013, Izzy developed a very serious condition called IMHA which she (thankfully) beat and is now in remission. This is when we discovered that she also developed Diabetes & Low Thyroid. Izzy was able to receive excellent care because of the generosity of folks on Epi4dogs! Izzy continues to wake up every day full of joy. I am not a vet. All of my suggestions/recommendations are based on personal experiences, observations, information gleaned from EPI researchers & pet parents alike, and EPI research. Please share with your vet everything we suggest.

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