Fatty deposit removed - allergy?

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MegW
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Pet name: Shilo

Fatty deposit removed - allergy?

Post by MegW » 30 May 2019, 14:05

My Shilo just had a fatty deposit removed today because it was really bothering her with constant licking (groin area near vulva).
Her licking started around the time I had to find a new food because her old had major ingredient changes.
About 3 months ago I switched her to SportDogFood Elite Buffalo/herding dogs and she loved it. Her poops were never better! Same Enzyme Diane 6x 1 t per meal & home made kefir grains.
I also got a new batch of Enzymes about that time.
I work at a vets office as a receptionist and have gotten cTLI tests done recently and she is not in the clinical range for EPI anymore!
I have been treating her successfully with the Enzyme DIane 6x enzymes and "cooler" meat based foods over the years. 4% less fiber. She has been on a variety of foods over the past 5 years from fully homemade turkey and/or with dehydrated base meeting EPI suggested guidelines with no problems until recently.

HAS ANYONE EVER HAD ALLERGIES START AS A RESULT OF AN ENZYME BATCH OR LONG-TERM USE?

I am switching her food but not sure what to brand to try next.
(Something turkey based for inflammation reasons preferred)
I am also considering getting drastic and switching to Prozyme for a bit (plant based enzyme).
I have not had a SID/SIBO problem in a LONG TIME and give homemade kefir grains so hate to start SID again!
So many variables!
I have to wonder if she developed an intolerance to pork or diet that has a protein base that is too rich.
Thinking of trying SportDogFood Elite Turkey that is just turkey meal (no pork or buffalo) but has all the other grainfree/peafree ingredients OR Orijen Original (turkey/chicken)

My vet wants to put her on apoquel for just a couple weeks and has a good homeopathic topical cream to use as well.

While a pain, switching foods again is the easy part.
What are some good porcine enzyme alternatives if I have to go that route as well?
Beef? Plant based strong enough?

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Madelon
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Re: Fatty deposit removed - allergy?

Post by Madelon » 30 May 2019, 21:33

Hi. What were the cTLI, B12 and Folate test results? If your dog was not diagnosed with EPI then we don't recommend using enzymes and treating as if EPI long term as EPI masks many other conditions/diseases which if left untreated and properly diagnosed could have dire consequences. If your dog was diagnosed with EPI, then your dog will have EPI for life as the pancreas does not regenerate itself.

Unfortunately I have become way too familiar with and had to much research regarding food sensitivities and allergies as my boy developed them shortly after his EPI diagnosis when I switched his food to one that had menhaden fish meal. Dogs are like people in that they can develop and resolve sensitivities/allergies at any point in their life. If you believe it came from when you switched foods then I would compare the ingredients in the food you were feeding to the food you switched to and see if anything stands out.
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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Jean
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Pet name: Kara
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Re: Fatty deposit removed - allergy?

Post by Jean » 04 Jun 2019, 13:41

to me anything near the vulva is likely to be hormonal

Kara had this, and it was

maybe ask the question

Jean
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


Jeanx

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