EPI and anesthesia

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Elle05
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EPI and anesthesia

Post by Elle05 » 12 Aug 2019, 10:24

Does EPI effect anesthesia— the doctor said his blood proteins and everything came back normal for CBC and CMP. But I’m a worry wort...
Chester is a 6 year old Manchester terrier adoptee (adopted at 5 with EPI) on porcine enzyme powder, B-12, Pepsid, Spirulina, Zinc and Salmon oil. He enjoys chasing squeaky things in Washington state and being an assistant to his foster siblings and Mobility Service dog trainees. Boy is this fellow tolerant of his insecure buddies!

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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by Jean » 12 Aug 2019, 10:40

hello and welcome from UK

anesthetics are always a worry

What surgery is it ?

EPI once its stable is as any other dog

we had a few anesthetics with Kara and no issues

tell us more about your little one

Jean
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules


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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by Elle05 » 12 Aug 2019, 14:19

Hello,

First and foremost, thank you for answering!
I have had Chester a year! I adopted him from the shelter with EPI, he was there for an awfully long time/and discounted to only $50 (most dogs are $350 especially trained ones like him, he knows all leash and obedience commands), I had recently lost my dog after he had been fighting diabetes for 7 years at the age of 15 to aspiration pneumonia.

When I got Chester, he was on prozeyme only (very gassy and yellow poo, I knew something was wrong because I had a dog who had chronic pancreatitis prior). He’s a 6 year old Manchester terrier weighing 20 pounds (was 17 pounds when I got him).

His food is a mix of Victor high Pro plus and Blue Buffalo Life Protection currently. Although when one bag gets half empty we add Halo for small dogs (the formula with the taurine in it—I think the Game animal one or the Taste of wild Kind). We do give him fresh veggies, yogurt, chicken, brown rice and yogurt. Whatever’s in season.

He has a history of SIBO and B-12 deficiency. He was surrendered after snapping at the old owners toddler who was crawling on him (he has never snapped at any children near me, but he doesn’t like puppies or cats...)

He has a fractured molar and needs a dental (I brush his teeth but am unsure the previous owners had). He is going to get a root canal and crown.

His main enzyme is from enzyme Diane and gets 1 tbsp per 1 cup (but gets 1 heaping 1/2 c about twice day. He’s had EPI since he was 3 so 3 years.

Supplements and medicine include:
- Wonderlabs Vitamin B-12
- pepsid ever 12 hours or he has reflux (we thought it was a food allergy and tried elimination diet even tried just byson for awhile but no luck).
- Hawaiian Spirulina (for his Vitamin E and C)
- NUSENTIA Probiotic Miracle Dog
- Pet tabs plus Multi vitamin
- wild caught salmon oil
- slippery elm if needed
Chester is a 6 year old Manchester terrier adoptee (adopted at 5 with EPI) on porcine enzyme powder, B-12, Pepsid, Spirulina, Zinc and Salmon oil. He enjoys chasing squeaky things in Washington state and being an assistant to his foster siblings and Mobility Service dog trainees. Boy is this fellow tolerant of his insecure buddies!

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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by jilbert57 » 12 Aug 2019, 16:11

One thing I see, do you mean 1 tablespoon enzyme or 1 teaspoon?
Starting amount should be 1 level teaspoon enzyme per 1 level cup kibble.
So in your case 1/2 teaspoon enzyme per 1/2 level cup kibble.

Jill
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by Elle05 » 12 Aug 2019, 16:20

Yes, sorry about that. One teaspoon per a cup. He get one half teaspoon per a heaping cup instead on a level cup (: tablespoon would be an awful lot of enzyme.
Chester is a 6 year old Manchester terrier adoptee (adopted at 5 with EPI) on porcine enzyme powder, B-12, Pepsid, Spirulina, Zinc and Salmon oil. He enjoys chasing squeaky things in Washington state and being an assistant to his foster siblings and Mobility Service dog trainees. Boy is this fellow tolerant of his insecure buddies!

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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by jilbert57 » 12 Aug 2019, 20:22

Just checkin :)
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 12 yrs young. TJ is a 3 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
6/1999 - 8/2014

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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by Jean » 13 Aug 2019, 03:34

you are more than welcome

acid reflux

the tablet I used for Kara was Ranitidine 30 mins before food, otherwise she frothed white stuff

let us know

jean
My name is Jean we live in Liverpool in Uk

My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We use Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules


Jeanx

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Re: EPI and anesthesia

Post by Madelon » 14 Aug 2019, 22:26

Hi and welcome to our EPI family. If your vet did a full blood panel and they have someone monitoring blood pressure and anesthesia during the procedure then your dog should be fine. You might have a day or two or even three (they are all different) of off poops as the anesthesia and pain meds leave the body. My boy was neutered after his EPI diagnosis (I waited until he was stable) and his poop was off for a few days but then corrected itself.

We are all EPI parents here so we are with you - helicopter moms and dads :)
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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