Re: New EPI Diagnosis - Feeling Overwhelmed...
Posted: 22 Apr 2020, 23:06
Yep dealing with EPI can be a roller coaster ride... until you find the right balance of everything! And then things are fine... until the next bump in the road like when a pet food company changes the formula on the food that has been perfect for your dog.... surprise! or all has been going well and then 4 or 5 years later ... all of a sudden the dog's SID is out of control .... and it's because your dog has aged, things don't work as well as they used to and the fix is to slightly increase the enzyme dose (please remember this tidbit as it happens to a lot of our EPI dogs as they age... not all... but a good many!)
And yes, d Sadie just "burps" once or twice immediately after eating a meal and she eats fast... then that is exactly what that is and no need to treat for out of controlled SID.
YES you can put slippery elm powder in capsules and camouflage it by tucking them in something too and give with a meal (that has a little extra moisture in it.)
I wouldn't try other foods just yet .. but once Sadie is back to normal and maintains her "norm"s for about 1 to 2 weeks.... THEN i would try a different food. Rice is a grain... although some dogs do just fine on it... i think it is part how well that dog can tolerate grains without it interfering with the enzyme efficacy... AND... exactly how much rice there is in that particular dog food formula.. If you want, email me privately ([email protected]) sending me your mailing address and i can send you a sample of the Sport Elite grain free and pea free dog food.... and you can "try" it on Sadie without spending money on a new bag of food.
SPORT Elite Whitefish
1. Ingredients (notice no peas or lentils or white potato... this is a good quality food for many EPI dogs)
Whitefish Meal, Dried Sweet Potato, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Coconut Meal, Cassava Root, Ocean Fish Meal, Natural Flavors, Salmon Oil, Monocalcium Phosphate, Calcium Propionate, Potassium Chloride, Yeast Culture (Probiotic), Chicory Root, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acids Chelate, Salt, Yucca Schidigera Extract (Probiotic), Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Dried Cranberry Powder, Dried Blueberry Powder, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Selenium Yeast (Probiotic), Niacin Supplement (Vitamin B3), D-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B 12 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Biotin (Vitamin B8), Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Copper Amino Acids Complex (Chelate), Green Tea Extract, Rosemary Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product (Probiotic), Dried Aspergillus Niger Fermentation Product (Probiotic), Dried Trichoderma Longibrachiatum Fermentation Product (Probiotic), Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product (Probiotic).
and fiber content is good at 3.9%
Crude Protein 27.0% min
Crude Fat 16.0% min
Crude Fiber 3.9% max
OR..... try
Taste of the Wild "Pacific Stream" commercial food (small bag)
1. Notice how "PEAS" is the 5th items down the line (and then lentils 7th)....
Ingredients
Salmon, Ocean Fish Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes, Peas, Canola Oil, Lentils[/color], Salmon Meal, Smoked Salmon, Potato Fiber, Natural Flavor, Salt, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Dried Chicory Root, Tomatoes, Blueberries, Raspberries, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Plantarum Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Bifidobacterium Animalis Fermentation Product, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid. Contains A Source Of Live (Viable), Naturally Occurring Microorganisms.and the
2. fiber content is very low at 3%:
Crude Protein 25.0% min
Crude Fat 15.0% min
Crude Fiber 3.0% max
And yes, d Sadie just "burps" once or twice immediately after eating a meal and she eats fast... then that is exactly what that is and no need to treat for out of controlled SID.
YES you can put slippery elm powder in capsules and camouflage it by tucking them in something too and give with a meal (that has a little extra moisture in it.)
I wouldn't try other foods just yet .. but once Sadie is back to normal and maintains her "norm"s for about 1 to 2 weeks.... THEN i would try a different food. Rice is a grain... although some dogs do just fine on it... i think it is part how well that dog can tolerate grains without it interfering with the enzyme efficacy... AND... exactly how much rice there is in that particular dog food formula.. If you want, email me privately ([email protected]) sending me your mailing address and i can send you a sample of the Sport Elite grain free and pea free dog food.... and you can "try" it on Sadie without spending money on a new bag of food.
SPORT Elite Whitefish
1. Ingredients (notice no peas or lentils or white potato... this is a good quality food for many EPI dogs)
Whitefish Meal, Dried Sweet Potato, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Coconut Meal, Cassava Root, Ocean Fish Meal, Natural Flavors, Salmon Oil, Monocalcium Phosphate, Calcium Propionate, Potassium Chloride, Yeast Culture (Probiotic), Chicory Root, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acids Chelate, Salt, Yucca Schidigera Extract (Probiotic), Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Sulfate, Dried Cranberry Powder, Dried Blueberry Powder, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Selenium Yeast (Probiotic), Niacin Supplement (Vitamin B3), D-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Vitamin B 12 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Biotin (Vitamin B8), Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Copper Amino Acids Complex (Chelate), Green Tea Extract, Rosemary Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product (Probiotic), Dried Aspergillus Niger Fermentation Product (Probiotic), Dried Trichoderma Longibrachiatum Fermentation Product (Probiotic), Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product (Probiotic).
and fiber content is good at 3.9%
Crude Protein 27.0% min
Crude Fat 16.0% min
Crude Fiber 3.9% max
OR..... try
Taste of the Wild "Pacific Stream" commercial food (small bag)
1. Notice how "PEAS" is the 5th items down the line (and then lentils 7th)....
Ingredients
Salmon, Ocean Fish Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes, Peas, Canola Oil, Lentils[/color], Salmon Meal, Smoked Salmon, Potato Fiber, Natural Flavor, Salt, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Dried Chicory Root, Tomatoes, Blueberries, Raspberries, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Plantarum Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Bifidobacterium Animalis Fermentation Product, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B1), Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid. Contains A Source Of Live (Viable), Naturally Occurring Microorganisms.and the
2. fiber content is very low at 3%:
Crude Protein 25.0% min
Crude Fat 15.0% min
Crude Fiber 3.0% max