One smelly little dog!

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Bruinwar
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One smelly little dog!

Post by Bruinwar » 01 Dec 2019, 11:08

Hello all,

First let me thank everyone here who helped us from the beginning. Our Pug Shadow is doing well. She appears to be symptom free, poops are perfect (ha!) & according to the vet, is at a perfect weight (seems a bit skinny to me). She is in great shape, keeps up with the big dogs at the park, & can handle long walks even in the hot weather. In all appearances, she is more healthy than ever. It's been a while since I posted here & if nothing else, I wanted to give this update. Specially since she is doing so well.

One problem... the smell. I know we've discussed "the smell" here on multiple occasions & there are a few theories but nothing concrete & no treatment for it. I'm just posting today to see if anything new has come up about the problem. Bathing works for a few hours, most of a day maybe, then it's back. My wife with the sensitive nose, says the stink does not come from her body but from her mouth. Personally I can't tell, but then I don't sniff her up close like the wife does.

Any news on the EPI fragrance?

Thanks,
Joe S.

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jilbert57
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Re: One smelly little dog!

Post by jilbert57 » 01 Dec 2019, 11:44

Hi Joe and thanks for the great update!

Only a couple things I can think might help. Brushing the teeth with a vet approved toothpaste, adding a breath additive to the water, and going to Creon for enzyme. However since things are going so well I would really hesitate to change enzymes. Maybe you use Creon already.

I am not aware of any new findings to help the smell.

Jill
My name is Jill and I live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. I have two dogs: Kiya is an aussie/blue heeler and is 13, TJ is a 4 year old Jack Russell. They keep me on my toes.
Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.
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Bruinwar
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Re: One smelly little dog!

Post by Bruinwar » 01 Dec 2019, 19:24

Hi Jill,

We are using Diane's Enzymes & are happy with the product mainly because Shad is doing so well.
We will try using a breath additive in her water. The toothpaste thing might be difficult so let's see how the breath additive works.

Thank you very much for your reply,
Joe

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Re: One smelly little dog!

Post by Barb » 02 Dec 2019, 23:14

Hello, Joe,

Thanks for the great update on Shadow! It is always so good to hear that a pup is doing so well. We all remember the beginning stages and how stressful they were, so hearing that pups are thriving gladdens our hearts!

Sorry I can't help you with the "fragrance" issue. I know you won't want to hear this, but Kolby never had an odor. It does seem odd that some dogs exhibit the "odor of sanctity" and others don't.

Keep the good news coming.

Barb

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Re: One smelly little dog!

Post by Tuckaboo. » 07 Dec 2019, 07:44

Tucker's breath sometimes smells like dirty tennis shoes, but I have found marinating his food an extra few minutes sometimes helps. I am not certain this is the case, but it does seem that way. I am nose-sensitive, too, but so happy with his health being good, it doesn't bother me. Again, burn some Yankee candles for the holidays!---Pam
Tucker is a shepherd mix, and has not had a blood test for EPI. In May 2019 we started on sulfasalazine to eliminate IBS as diagnosis. Symptoms returned at end of course, so started on Tylan alone...no luck, so added enzymes, and progress was shown. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4t/day, Wonderlab B12 capsules 2/day, and Tylan 1/2 t/day. No more coprophagia, he has gained 8 pounds, and he is a happy member of the family...no more grumpies with his much smaller brother & sisters, who do not have EPI.

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Re: One smelly little dog!

Post by Madelon » 08 Dec 2019, 22:49

Hi. I agree - if its from the mouth you might try some brushing or additives to the water. I don't think it's EPI related. I'm the world's worst as I don't brush my dog's teeth - they won't tolerate it and I have to pick my battles LOL
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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