New Diagnosis - Chihuahua

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vero2020
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New Diagnosis - Chihuahua

Post by vero2020 » 04 Feb 2020, 10:46

Hello, I work for a clinic that adopted a 10 month old 2 lb chihuahua that is being treated for EPI, he has not had the test TLI blood test due to the pets size and weight, the clinic has been giving him B12 injections every three days, ampicillin twice a day, pancreatin enyzme on his food which consist of chicken and carrots, metrodazole, and propectalin.. His stools have improved in consistency but he is not gaining weight and wanted to know if you have any recommendations to improve his diet, he is an eager little eater. Everything I have found is that this effects large breed dogs, so its hard to find information for this little guys size.

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Re: New Diagnosis - Chihuahua

Post by Tuckaboo. » 04 Feb 2020, 17:49

Hello there! Here is what I know when it comes to my shepherd mix, and I'm not sure if a tiny dog is any different. ---1) porcine enzymes. I use Diane's enzymes 1 teaspoon per cup of food . Pour room temp liquid over the food & enzymes, then marinate for 20 minutes. 2) B12, which you have covered, but I use Wonder Labs intrinsic factor B12. 3) Antibiotics. Many of us use Tylan, because it only affects the bad bacteria. You can also try slippery elm. You will soon hear from staff, and they will be more specific, but I will tell you the weight gain can sometimes start out slowly. Bless you and your clinic for helping this little puppy. ---Pam
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Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix, adopted on craigslist; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 3 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 capsules 1/day, and Tylan 1/5 teaspoon/day. Thriving on Sport Dog Food Elite/Herding Dog. No more coprophagia, his weight is steady, and he is a happy member of the family, if a bit of a bully with his four siblings from time to time. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Re: New Diagnosis - Chihuahua

Post by Tuckaboo. » 04 Feb 2020, 17:55

OH, and chicken is not great for EPI, and his portion should be 150% of what you would feed him if he weighed what he should. So, if he should weigh 5 pounds, and the bag says 5 ib. dogs get 1/2 cup per day, you would instead feed 3/4 cup per day, probably over 3-4 feedings. Take care.
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix, adopted on craigslist; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 3 teaspoons/day, Wonderlab B12 capsules 1/day, and Tylan 1/5 teaspoon/day. Thriving on Sport Dog Food Elite/Herding Dog. No more coprophagia, his weight is steady, and he is a happy member of the family, if a bit of a bully with his four siblings from time to time. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Re: New Diagnosis - Chihuahua

Post by Buttermom1 » 04 Feb 2020, 21:26

Hello and welcome. Thank you for stepping up and caring for this pup. My Butterbean dropped to below 4#’s at her worst, so I know exactly how you are feeling right now. First, make sure that the amount of enzymes given are in exact relation to the amount of food. 1/4 cup of food should have a 1/4 tsp of enzymes. Feeding 150% of recommended amount is what is advised in the beginning until the weight is gained. Because Butter was so sick and so thin, we used the CliniCare liquid for her calorie uptick until she started eating well. We also had to use baby food (pure chicken with no additives) to entice her to eat. We made a super shake with these two ingredients and the enzymes, allowed everything to incubate for 30 minutes, then froze in ice trays. We took a cube or two out and allowed them to thaw back into a liquid and we would syringe feed her at first, then she began to lap it up. This was our transition to get her back to eating normal food again. She was incredibly sick and had a massive intestinal infection, so we were critical for some time. We fed multiple meals throughout the day (6 in the very beginning) as well. The weight is usually the last thing you will see return, so keep a good eye on the poop. That’s always the barometer with EPI. Please ask any and all questions you have. Feel free to email me as well at susan.epi4dogs@gmail.com if you’d like to talk specifics to the little ones. The forum is a wonderful tool to use as these folks have usually seen just about everything.....
Susan

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Re: New Diagnosis - Chihuahua

Post by Madelon » 06 Feb 2020, 14:01

Hi and welcome to our EPI family. Thank you so much for caring for this tiny pup. You're in good hands with Susan so I won't muddy the waters and just wanted to welcome you.
MADELON and Doc. DX EPI and SIBO: 5/22/2015
Test Results: (1st) 7/2014 = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate > 24; (2nd) 5/2015 = TLI < .4, B12 406; Folate >24; (3rd) 10/2015 TLI < .4; B12 >1000; Folate 14.4. Prior to DX: May 2014 (2mos) - DX coccidia/bladder infection; July 2014 (3mos) 1st EPI test = TLI 16.5, B12 894, Folate >24 - Dx SIBO not EPI; Feb 2015 thru May 2015 - weight loss only; May 2015 vomitted several times, diarrhea and eating poop. Regimen: 4 cups Sport Dog Food Elite Herding - Diane 6x 1tsp per cup; 1 WonderLab PetFactor B12 2x day; 1/2tsp Slippery Elm 2xday; Multivitamin; 1 Zyrtec 10mg 2x day; Salmon Oil

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