Help- new and can't stop the diaherea
Posted: 18 Apr 2020, 21:01
My German Shepherd guy is 10yrs old. I have always had trouble keeping weight on him. He has always had seasonal allergies that affect his eyes and ears but the last couple of years he has had terrible itchy skin with inflammation + hair loss that the vets can't figure out. I found a different vet who suggested benedryl. It hasn't helped much.
Now the last few months he has had chronic diarrhea and huge weight loss + gurgling stomach and hunger and the vet said it could be pancreatic insufficiency and suggested enzymes and probiotics. He has lost so much weight that his ribs and hip bones are showing. After much research this totally fits and I am frustrated that it wasn't caught sooner. The problem is that no matter what I try I can't get the loose yellow stools to stop and he is barely gaining. There is also lots of stomach gurgling and a little belching/reflux after eating.
Please can someone give me a clear step by step ? I am so overwhelmed that i don't know which supplements etc are important.
Here is what I am currently doing:
Food: Barker's brunch raw signature blend ground - 50% beef trim w organ/tripe 50% ground chicken necks
3lbs per day (almost double the norm what he should be) split in 3 meals (he is always ready to eat)
Enzymes: about a tbsp of pork pancreas pureed with a little water and split between meals. I mix it in and let it sit for 20 mins. Seems if I give more enzyme than that the stool gets looser.
Probiotics: 2 kinds since I couldn't find the stains the vet suggested in one brand. I am almost at a capsule of each in each meal.
AOR probiotic 3 - enteroccocus feacum 18 mil, clostridium butyricum 0.6 mil, baccilus subtillus 0.6 mil
cyto matrix multi strain 11 - 3 strains bifidobacterium , 9 stains of lactobacillus
Slippery elm: 1/2 tsp mixed in each meal ( seems to make his stools looser but I just started today)
Electrolytes: a package of unflavored pedialyte in his bowl of drinking water because he has had the runs for so long. Just started the last couple of days but it seems to perk him up a bit. I know this doesn't "solve" anything. Just supportive
Benedryl: 500 mg 3 times per day
Additional: I have put in an order for
enzymediane powder
tylosin powder
b12 with folate and intrinsic factor
I am especially concerned about his b12 but I can't afford anymore vet bills atm. The problem is that I am in Canada and despite submitting customs paperwork the b12 is being held in customs ! I suspect it will be the same prob for the tylosin and possibly the enzymes.
I have read all sorts of things about b12 being the "turning point" . I have to admit that I got desperate and bought the "regular" cyanocobalamine b12 in liquid form and am giving 1000mg with each (3) meals. I don't know if he can even absorb any of this ?
He gets his last meal late before bed and his morning poop is usually formed and browner. but after his first and second meal his poops get really loose and yellow. The yellow poops + skin problems and inflammation and itching, goopy eyes/ears = sibo ?
I have been doing double food+enzymes+probiotics for 2 weeks
slippery elm & b12 liquid & pedialyte for 1-2 days
He has (maybe) gained a pound or 2
I have tons of supplements suggested in the past by homeopathic vet - but he didn't catch epi and was treating his skin like an allergy (a,e,c,d, 2 kinds of zinc etc) with no improvement.
also sunday sundae and feedsentials (but don't know if they are good anymore had them for over 2 yrs in the cupboard)
I am scared he is going to die if I can't get some nutrients into him. He is getting 3lbs of ground meat and organ and bone per day ... how can he possibly not be gaining weight ? This is frightening.
Please tell me what to do step by step ? Should I change his food ?
I really didn't want to go back to kibble but I don't know what to do.
He has not been officially diagnosed but his vet feels that if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it is probably a duck. Or in this case epi/sibo.
Now the last few months he has had chronic diarrhea and huge weight loss + gurgling stomach and hunger and the vet said it could be pancreatic insufficiency and suggested enzymes and probiotics. He has lost so much weight that his ribs and hip bones are showing. After much research this totally fits and I am frustrated that it wasn't caught sooner. The problem is that no matter what I try I can't get the loose yellow stools to stop and he is barely gaining. There is also lots of stomach gurgling and a little belching/reflux after eating.
Please can someone give me a clear step by step ? I am so overwhelmed that i don't know which supplements etc are important.
Here is what I am currently doing:
Food: Barker's brunch raw signature blend ground - 50% beef trim w organ/tripe 50% ground chicken necks
3lbs per day (almost double the norm what he should be) split in 3 meals (he is always ready to eat)
Enzymes: about a tbsp of pork pancreas pureed with a little water and split between meals. I mix it in and let it sit for 20 mins. Seems if I give more enzyme than that the stool gets looser.
Probiotics: 2 kinds since I couldn't find the stains the vet suggested in one brand. I am almost at a capsule of each in each meal.
AOR probiotic 3 - enteroccocus feacum 18 mil, clostridium butyricum 0.6 mil, baccilus subtillus 0.6 mil
cyto matrix multi strain 11 - 3 strains bifidobacterium , 9 stains of lactobacillus
Slippery elm: 1/2 tsp mixed in each meal ( seems to make his stools looser but I just started today)
Electrolytes: a package of unflavored pedialyte in his bowl of drinking water because he has had the runs for so long. Just started the last couple of days but it seems to perk him up a bit. I know this doesn't "solve" anything. Just supportive
Benedryl: 500 mg 3 times per day
Additional: I have put in an order for
enzymediane powder
tylosin powder
b12 with folate and intrinsic factor
I am especially concerned about his b12 but I can't afford anymore vet bills atm. The problem is that I am in Canada and despite submitting customs paperwork the b12 is being held in customs ! I suspect it will be the same prob for the tylosin and possibly the enzymes.
I have read all sorts of things about b12 being the "turning point" . I have to admit that I got desperate and bought the "regular" cyanocobalamine b12 in liquid form and am giving 1000mg with each (3) meals. I don't know if he can even absorb any of this ?
He gets his last meal late before bed and his morning poop is usually formed and browner. but after his first and second meal his poops get really loose and yellow. The yellow poops + skin problems and inflammation and itching, goopy eyes/ears = sibo ?
I have been doing double food+enzymes+probiotics for 2 weeks
slippery elm & b12 liquid & pedialyte for 1-2 days
He has (maybe) gained a pound or 2
I have tons of supplements suggested in the past by homeopathic vet - but he didn't catch epi and was treating his skin like an allergy (a,e,c,d, 2 kinds of zinc etc) with no improvement.
also sunday sundae and feedsentials (but don't know if they are good anymore had them for over 2 yrs in the cupboard)
I am scared he is going to die if I can't get some nutrients into him. He is getting 3lbs of ground meat and organ and bone per day ... how can he possibly not be gaining weight ? This is frightening.
Please tell me what to do step by step ? Should I change his food ?
I really didn't want to go back to kibble but I don't know what to do.
He has not been officially diagnosed but his vet feels that if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it is probably a duck. Or in this case epi/sibo.